# The Lazy Twitter/Threads/Bluesky Thread
**URL:** https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526
**Category:** General
**Created:** [November 12, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526 "2020-11-12T15:48:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Les\_Zeppelin](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Les_Zeppelin)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/582 "2021-10-25T18:14:54Z")
Not normally a fan of daytime quiz show shaming but this is a good one.
[https://twitter.com/graemedouglas/status/1452661320227168263?s=20](https://twitter.com/graemedouglas/status/1452661320227168263?s=20)
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### Author:  [@buildafire](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/buildafire)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/583 "2021-10-25T18:28:24Z")
Wooooah. Yeah. That’s fair game.
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### Author:  [@voodoo](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/voodoo)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/584 "2021-10-26T12:04:48Z")
_D’oh!_
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### Author:  [@Les\_Zeppelin](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Les_Zeppelin)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/585 "2021-10-26T13:26:55Z")
They’ve clipped this so that it goes viral so I’m obviously playing the game but this is next level.
[https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1452892180301889538?s=20](https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1452892180301889538?s=20)
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### Author:  [@Dent\_Face](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Dent_Face)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/586 "2021-10-26T14:22:11Z")
I don’t get it? Timber is clearly more sustainable than concrete. Interviewer comes across as a wanker.
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### Author:  [@anon3368876](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/anon3368876)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/587 "2021-10-26T14:23:20Z")
That just came across as a gammon having a pop at a crusty snowflake then flouncing off. No winners there.
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### Author:  [@Dent\_Face](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Dent_Face)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/588 "2021-10-26T14:25:19Z")
Exactly. Why would you promote your radio station with this clip?! It just reminds me never to listen to it.
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### Author:  [@Scurbrampwoody](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Scurbrampwoody)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/589 "2021-10-26T14:29:48Z")
The interviewer just seemed like Mel Smith playing a dickhead. ‘You can grow concrete’. Hmmm, well, a lot of the constituents form organically over millions of years, so there’s that…and then there’s the processing etc… so no, no you can’t.
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### Author:  [@voodoo](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/voodoo)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/590 "2021-10-26T14:56:44Z")
It all got a bit, _”You feed beef burgers to swans. You have big sheds, but nobody’s allowed in. And in these sheds you have 20ft high chickens, and these chickens are scared…”_
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### Author:  [@buildafire](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/buildafire)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/591 "2021-10-26T14:59:54Z")
All right, well, perhaps you can tell me what’s wrong with feeding beefburgers to swans.
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### Author:  [@Mike](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Mike)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/592 "2021-10-26T15:24:43Z")
The New Scientist link off the back of that about ‘living’ concrete was interesting. Had to check it wasn’t an April 1st job though.
I get the feeling I wouldn’t want to talk to either of those two people.
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### Author:  [@Dent\_Face](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Dent_Face)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/593 "2021-10-26T15:49:49Z")
> [@Mike](#):
>
> I get the feeling I wouldn’t want to talk to either of those two people.
I mean, Cameron only said about 4 words. Lets not ‘both sides’ this one. One of these people comes over much worse, regardless of any feelings about Insulate Britain.
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### Author:  [@Mike](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Mike)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/594 "2021-10-26T15:55:50Z")
Definitely both sides I’m afraid.
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### Author:  [@jimo](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/jimo)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/596 "2021-10-26T19:47:14Z")
How is it both sides? The young guy didn’t say anything controversial did he? The older guy was being a total bulb.
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### Author:  [@Mike](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Mike)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/597 "2021-10-26T21:00:34Z")
@jimo @Dent_Face - Sorry, I’m in-between trying to be a semi decent parent first and typing this bollocks second haha. Failing both but good points.
I’m likely commenting a little wider than that single ‘altercation’, I find the whole debacle really, really frustrating. Old man ‘glue’ jibe first followed by young guy ‘I’d rather not be looking at you’ jibe second - this is primary school playground bullshit from two grown adults. Maybe young guy thought ‘fuck this’, but he’s representing IB.
I’ve had a sniff about out of interest so maybe a bit of a job done there…Irrespective of that whole idiotic shit show - I’ll pluck some random guestimate numbers from ‘official stats on the internets’ as I support what Insulate Britain _want_ but I don’t see their methods particularly great. Insulate Britain’s first demand taken from their website;
> That the UK government immediately promises to fully fund and take responsibility for the insulation of all social housing in Britain by 2025
Social housing numbers? Two random internet sources suggest between 4 and 4.4M…maybe crap links but suggestion is under the 5M mark.
[https://www.statista.com/statistics/286509/england-number-of-social-rented-households/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/286509/england-number-of-social-rented-households/)
> **[Social housing owned by for-profit providers increases by 75%](https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/social-housing-owned-by-for-profit-providers-increases-by-75-69680)**
>
> Homes owned by for-profit providers rose by 74.3% in the year to March 2020
Maybe just under 10k for profit social housing. A drop in the ocean compared to the overall figure, so I’ll discount these although my expectation is that they should all be fully up to standard as of **now** (but for profit likely means they aren’t and won’t be unless new build properties).
I’m all for insulating my house and I’m paying for it out of my own pocket. Using less gas and leccy is good, right? I’m old enough to actually see how things have changed and I have two young kids, so a couple of guesstimate costs on insulating the average house based upon my recent spending. Weighted to north midlands so I’ll round up a little at the end as I live in a cheap area:
DIY insulated my garage, 30m2 - £50ish (plus half a days work cutting and rolling it out). Call it £100 materials (roughly 60m2) and what, £150 labour for an average social house.
Replaced 4 large windows and a toilet window in August '21 with a local window company - £3200
I have no cavity wall insulation but I’d expect to pay between…£700 - £1k for a detached home.
> **[Cavity Wall Insulation Cost Guide (2026 Update)](https://www.myjobquote.co.uk/costs/cavity-wall-insulation)**
>
> Looking into wall cavity insulation costs? This guide details the cost of cavity wall insulation for different-sized homes, what impacts quotes, and much more!
So for my times sake (I’m rounding up here, not taking into account …)
Insulation - £250
Windows - £3000
Cavity - £750
Fuck it, I’ll round up to £5k per social house…and 5M social houses. Happy for a builder to adjust these down.
**Total £25,000,000,000**
That the elephant in the room really. Given the material/food shortages we’re now seeing in the UK there’s no way any government will fund nor hit 2025 even if they were to stump up the cost right now. I’ve not taken account the % of social housing that is flats and tower blocks and I do not know that. There is someone out there in government that should, however.
Even, half the cost and we’re looking at £12.5 billion. Deep down I’m thinking is this why they’re just sitting in roads?
The obvious ‘whatabout’ and most visible big spending recently that initially comes to mind - Test and Trace?
**Total £37,000,000,000**
[https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/150988/unimaginable-cost-of-test-trace-failed-to-deliver-central-promise-of-averting-another-lockdown/](https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/150988/unimaginable-cost-of-test-trace-failed-to-deliver-central-promise-of-averting-another-lockdown/)
[https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/test\_and\_trace\_at\_what\_cost](https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/test_and_trace_at_what_cost)
HS2 - that is a real popular waste of our cash. I have a load of folk camping out in Woodland destined to be ripped up near to where I live…
[https://www.railway-technology.com/comment/hs2-costs-surge-during-pandemic/#:~:text=HS2%2C%20the%20UK’s%20biggest%20and,most%20of%20the%20project’s%20sites](https://www.railway-technology.com/comment/hs2-costs-surge-during-pandemic/#:~:text=HS2%2C%20the%20UK's%20biggest%20and,most%20of%20the%20project's%20sites).
**Total £107000000000**
IB link to this document. The numbers are pretty hefty long term…
> **[IB master report v2\_public\_20210923.pdf](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jt5FI-kinEXoqZtPDrCvnAVQ2EFn8Aea/view)**
>
> Google Drive file.
> Investment & payback of Energy Efficiency measures
> Upfront capital investment
> Insulating Britain’s homes requires significant up-front investment to deliver the broad benefits
> described above. Overall, upgrading the nation’s homes is estimated to require an average of
> around £19 billion annual investment from 2022 to 2050 (CLC, 2020). This is equivalent to 2.2% of
> total annual Government spending in the 2018-19 financial year (National Audit Office, 2020).
> The challenge of insulating 29 million homes is will be capital-intensive and is required in order to
> limit global heating and maintain a liveable climate, but the improvements will also pay for
> themselves economically over time. Models for the payback sometimes estimate around 25 years;
> whilst this is clearly longer than the planning horizon for most households, homes in the UK stand
> for at least 60 years but often much longer (Planning Portal, 2021). Therefore these improvements
> will bring long-term benefits over the lifetime of the property.
>
> 9
>
> A Range of Estimates
> Different reports suggest a range of estimates for the level of investment needed, but they are all in
> the range of £360 billion to £640 billion depending on the depth of the retrofit delivered (CCC, 2020;
> Element Energy & UCL, 2019; CLC, 2020).
> The total investment will depend partly on how the process is financed. The New Economics
> Foundation (2020) analysis compares a fully publicly-funded approach, a fully privately-funded
> approach, and a mixed funding approach. Whilst they recommend the mixed approach, the fully
> publicly-funded option provides the lowest overall costs. This is a result of the lower cost of capital
> available to the Government compared to individuals. NEF assume that government grants are
> provided for low-income households and state-backed 0% interest loans for households deemed
> ‘able to pay’.
I’m sat here now thinking that no matter what, we’re just fucked.
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### Author:  [@Mike](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Mike)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/598 "2021-10-26T21:04:27Z")
Went on one a bit but I think IB have a good point but they’re really fucking blowing it.
Getting my tea now! 🤣
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### Author:  [@jimo](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/jimo)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/599 "2021-10-26T21:34:03Z")
Yeah I am all for criticism of single issue politics, I don’t think you can focus on insulating houses without looking at the rest of our energy problems. Feels like this is a distraction from the real issue and could even be harmful because it’s being presented as a way that our government can buy us out of trouble.
Obviously we’re only going to see more of this kind of thing. Direct action, single issue campaigns, lobbying, and stuff like that is now part of ‘normal’ eco campaigning and seen as a totally legit way to protest. There are sensible older people doing it. Kids are into it. Schools and scientists even back it to an extent. It’s all a bit mad but when your government is voted in by a majority who don’t give a fuck what you gonna do?
Having said that, in this case at least the young guy had a point. I didn’t understand what the older guy was on about and he just sounded insane.
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### Author:  [@hugo](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/hugo)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/600 "2021-10-29T13:21:12Z")
[https://twitter.com/rossmccaff/status/1453979108866760704?s=21](https://twitter.com/rossmccaff/status/1453979108866760704?s=21)
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### Author:  [@buildafire](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/buildafire)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/601 "2021-10-29T13:32:36Z")
Posted a link to somebody offering their flat up for £20,000 a week a while back. Greenock is about the worst place in the world but this is by no means the worst price.
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### Author:  [@Les\_Zeppelin](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/u/Les_Zeppelin)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://ukskateforum.co.uk/t/the-lazy-twitter-threads-bluesky-thread/1526/602 "2021-10-29T17:30:39Z")
Lol
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