Those solid facts were not considering that they already know themselves and that is the reason that they have come to the conclusion that this anomaly of taking the vaccine could be a factor and because the vaccine is something they understand less than themselves, their contraception etc they are wondering.
I had some barman come after me with a baseball bat for walking off with a pint once. Seemed a bit of an over reaction
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But yeah, you gave opinion which is what I asked for, thanks for that, I do see it.
But you disregarded the covid being a factor, that’s all, tried to discount it and lay the blame elsewhere first. Again, that’s ok in isolation but in context of the previous posts within the argument as it carried out, it’s loaded.
I’ve said from the start there could be many different reasons, the simple answer is usually the right one, they forgot to take it? I’ve left my back door open after going to bed because I was sat outside enjoying the summer evening, I was sure I locked it, no I definitely did, it was a burglar that took nothing! It has too of been! When I found out I had blood cancer (and modern medicine saved me), I went in because my nose was annoying me, ‘It’s not my blood doc, stop talking about my blood, I came here about my nose’. There are so many variables it’s crazy to jump straight to one answer and one only.
Maybe you were so shitfaced that you hadn’t realised you’d put a pool cue through the fruit machine moments earlier.
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Anyway yes Covid. One weird thing about anti vaxers is they seem to fear some Orwellian state total control but I reckon there’s more to fear from no state control at all, full on free market / everyone for themselves/ anarchy which is more the direction we’re headed in.
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Ah yes. That was it. Actually that pub changed hands so many times that pint glass probably represented half his profit
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What the fuck is going on in this thread. @anon90826813 I’m struggling to understand your point. The vaccine could have side effects and we shouldn’t fully trust them?
Yer that’s what I read. Side affects so we shouldn’t trust it?
Just asked the Mrs she said she’d heard of it possibly messing with periods.
I TOTALLY AGREE in principal, but please consider that these avenues have been walked and that’s why the vaccine has become a suspect. That is ALL i’m saying here.
i’m glad you had your diagnosis, this is what happens most of the time and it’s amazing but there are times when things do not get the right answer and people still suffer. I can thing of many just in my small circle of people I know so I know I cannot ignore the contrary even if what is being said is fact. It’s not about questioning the fact it’s about adding questions around things that have not yet factored.
I didn’t say once we should not trust, I categorically said we have to/should trust because the vaccine is the right thing to do. BUT there are things emerging, albeit not life threatening that may be affected by the jab that maybe didn’t throw up questions in testing. This is all.
We all know I go around the houses 10 times to make a point and I am so contrary I can be confusing but if you do read you might get that I wasn’t even trying to make a point, just asking a question, assuming that we all knew that the vaccine and every vaccine is not 100% foolproof over the whole population. But Voodz triggered me because he didn’t read properly haha 
I hope you get to the bottom of it all. Just glad I didn’t make an unexpected baby though, haha. Oof. Just when mine are at some sort of young independence. I would cry.
You triggered me by saying a doctor wouldn’t know if someone was in danger for their health, but you do know, that no-one knows, haha.
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I’d be gutted if I was presented with a pregnancy, already dealing with 3 boys and the fact it’s impossible for me to give any more. There would be some questions for sure regardless of people calling me jesus for years.
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I get you’re not making your point well but I have some issues with the content. Side effects like blood clots have caused the anti vaxx crew to go wild but they were expected. The delivery system used for vaccines like AZ is known for causing clotting. Other vaccines in the same family also cause clots. I mean shit, to stay on the menstruation subject, the contraceptive pill is well known for causing blood clots. People pick and choose what they deem as acceptable risk and the vaccines are no more risky than anything else we consume. They are also incredibly well tested. People talking about “long term risks” “fertility issues” and “rushed approval” are talking out of their ass
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Who’s talking blood clots? I didn’t mention that at all. I’m not talking about legitimising any antivax claim at all, far from it. Only that I understand some of the questions like “it’s been rolled out too quickly” all while not commenting on or questioning the actual timeframe and what it possible in that timeframe. That would mean I know better than science. I also said that the reason anti vaxxers claim these these things is because of selfishness and stupidity/lack of knowledge but we all know that here of course. The facts out there about periods and pregnancy are narrow and yes, they are facts but some cases could contradict those facts slightly so the facts may change as more facts are discovered, that’s why I asked, if anyone has any opinion or knowledge on that very specific area. And honestly, the fact that i even mentioned it and the anti vax “too quick” claim is in response to Hugo’s cartoon post to be contrary to that mindset that all these questions are 100% asked in a way that deems you a dead anti vaxxer.
You were talking about side effects. Blood clots are one of the few genuine side effects and one that has been pounced upon by antivaxxers as a reason not to get vaccinated despite it being widely known and a side effect of other popular medicines that people don’t moan about as unsafe. That was my point.
Acceptable risk is not what i’m questioning, we all take those into consideration and accept or not. I did and i’m happy to. These issues i’m talking about are not swaying any opinion in these people to whether they should have had the vaccine or not, please do not assume that, just looking for links and possible reasons to why people are feeling unusually bad or presented with life changing situations when they are in full control otherwise.
Yeah but that’s assuming i’m anti and pouncing. There is no need to bring other side affects into it. I was very specific in my question and really tried to state that I was in full support of the vaccine even with these posed questions.
Were you though, very specific? It looked like you were swerving all over the place there, questioning a lot of things.
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