Going to watch the Sewing Bee. Fuck this.
Starmer isnât coming off great.
Just shut Rishi upâŚ
âYouâre a billionaire vax dodger, posh-bean regarder, and The Crazy World of Bertie Woosterâ
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Gaza. OooohhhhâŚ.bargepole.
Christ, we are not going to turn things around with either of these two.
Too far gone Iâm afraid. It has been for a number of years.
Starmer is too guarded as heâs scared to put a foot wrong which makes him look like heâs hiding something. While Rishi is unashamed and willing to twist the truth to blag his way through it.
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Spent a few months talking to friends about voting and I was more on the side of âfuck Labour but theyâre better for people in the country who are really struggling than the tories, as even tho I make fuck all and work endlessly I can still, only just, afford food and rentâ, however honestly the state of Labour in the last couple weeks has made me so appalled I donât know if I can anymore. Especially with Rachel Reeves as my MP recently declaring that she was âhappyâ that a ton of people in her constituency had cancelled their Labour memberships as it was weeding out the âantisemitesâ. Am I not seeing the bigger picture? Is a vote for someone else a waste? Is there anyone else?
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Fully in the same boat as you. Lib dems at least seem firmly set on policies for social care and the environment which are two important things for me. I keep being told that voting for them is âthrowing my vote awayâ but I hate that expression and I least Iâd be voting for something that matters to me
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Financial crash was caused by the implosion of subprime mortgage market which put some huge investment banks out of business. This was the fault of thousands of smaller brokers getting it so arseways with a huge onwards chain and then the worldâs major governments saying the banks with the most exposed debt (JP Morgan, CItibank, etc) were âtoo big to failâ and bailing them out, along with their insurers AIG.
The Tories when they got into power in spring 2010 then introduced highly punitive âausterityâ measures which are yet to be recinded, along with tripling the cost of university fees.
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Bollocks, it was Gordon Browns fault.
Edit for the winkey 
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Moving to New Zealand gets more appealing every day.
You just have to hope that if Labour carry the ming vase over to the other side in 4 weeks time (i.e. dont give the right wing rags any ammo to pelt them with and cause them to collapse in a big shitheap), get the big majority predicted, then they can start taxing the shit out of the rich and the lay the foundations to fix the many, many problems facing us all.
This is a good video on this if you hate all the parties/not thinking of voting:
Itâs funny mind, itâs from the early 2010s and a lot of it would apply todayâŚUKIP turning the main parties more right wing on immigration, nationalising rail plans etc
At the end of the day though, if you donât go into the polling booth in some form you simply have no right to moan about public life really. Itâs a free ticket into the game.
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I hate politics.
The whole âIâll just not voteâ thing is stupid for two reasons. You have a right to vote and not turning up is like not existing in the face of the decisions being made. So you canât complain afterwards. If youâre so pissed off you enter a blank vote.
This scenario has played out multiple times in France and now the far right are leading in the polls. Yes, partly because they have rebranded themselves and a lot of people feel disillusioned by the state of the traditional left and right, but also because the mad men and women who vote for these fringe groups will always turn out to vote.
Not bashing you @Les_Zeppelin just really tired of the current state of affairs in the uk and the world today.
I voted LibDem back in the day and that did nothing. I voted green recently and saw even less of a result. Politics is so shit.
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I didnât think you were seeing as you made the same point as me! 
Ha ha! Sorry about that. Early morning + Politics = Forum fail for me
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Iâm truly grappling with the idea of whether or not to vote for Reform. Iâll feel sick doing so, but I reckon in my area itâll be the one with the best chance to get rid of the long-standing Tory shitbag. But then do I want to be responsible for a Reform vote? Definitely not. Is getting rid of John Hayes worth it? Probably not.
Iâll probably do what I did last time and vote Green in the end. And John Hayes will win here again anyway.
Nope, the UK system of FPTP is what keeps it as a really bad 2 party system.
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Iâve heard more than few people say they didnât vote in the brexit referendum, as âvoting is stupidâ even though it now majorly affects their life or that they thought itâd be okay, so they didnât think they needed too. 14 years of Tory rule should scare everyone in to voting tactically this time. Nothing is ever guaranteed.
A poll has Sunak winning the debate by 51% ⌠so as hard as it is to imagine they could make up some real ground here.
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Theyâve made a huge thing about not increasing income tax and ruled out a wealth tax. They are putting a whole lot of emphasis on fiscal responsibility after the chaos of Truss.
Vote for whoever is likely to get the Tories out (apart from Reform @Jurwell!). A Tory rout would be very, very pleasing and would help out a dampener on politicsâ recent lurch rightwards.
Reform is a really weird one because itâs all about xenophopia and prejudice but they are the only ones talking about and considering what these pop up businessâ are. Carwashes and Barbers etc etc. This is what people want to know. I think itâs ok to want immigration sorting out in order to combat criminal activity but we all know that the reform mentalists are just anti anyone and talking about criminals is a buzz to get votes. However The big 2 are not looking into individual immigrant issues, The toryâs are sticking plasters on the wrong issues and Labour are too scared to talk about anything.
So I imagine Reform could gets some votes for that issue in particular, Stealing them from either blue or red.
