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How long would that take to put into action? A decade?!

This apparently has a petition with over 400000 signatures opposing its introduction already. I’m never sure why ID cards here generate such venomous opposition, and considering the voter ID thing I can only see it as a good thing for our democracy.

I’d like to know what it would mean in practice, how would it be used?

Also, what’s the difference between the government scraping all our data and the big tech firms?

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None given how close every party is to Palantir

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In the news…

Because a centralised database with every UK citizen’s information is not a good idea, if a bad actor or the government goes awry, they will have a full list of everyone’s data to filter through and target if needed.

Currently you need to show a picture of your face with your government ID to log onto grindr, I am not doing that and therefore not using the app, as I don’t want my personal details added to that database, because if a homophobe or group of homophones gets that data, they have names and addresses of every gay person in the country which they could target.

The nazis used censuses to locate jews during ww2, if you forget history, your doomed to repeat it.

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I work with a lot of EU citizens and they all use ID cards, almost interchangeably with their passports. They’re always like, “what d’you mean you don’t have an ID card?” It’s never been a detriment to them so don’t see why it should be for us.

I think all this stuff about “bad actors” and worrying about data compromise or the government going awry all sounds like exactly the same sort of justification the Yanks use to justify the Second Amendment and comes across to me as paranoia. That could just be me being naive though.

It’s clocking up hunderds of new signatures every few minutes.

I’ve got a passport and driving license. Why the fuck do I need a Digital-ID?

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Don’t the DVLA and passport authorities already have all this online? So any baddies could just hack that couldn’t they? Unless you mean the digital ID would also include extra stuff like sexual orientation, religion, etc?

I’ve never seen that amount of signatures so quickly. That has to be some kind of manipulation surely?

I know they’re painting these digital ID’s as some way to deal with illegal immigrants ability to work, but aren’t illegal immigrants already unable to work unless it’s cash in hand or for companies not so interested in checking that sort of thing, so how is the likely to help?

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Yeah, I find them using the hot topic of the moment, helping to stop illegal immigrants from coming over as they won’t be able to get work with the ID system very dodgy. Like you said, it’s all cash in hand and many of them forced into doing a lot of shady work anyway. It not going to change anything.

I’m in for digital ID.

Wallet sits at home, phone has my cards on and is also my car and house key. Be sick to never have to find my driving licence or wonder where my passport is one day.

I’m not stressing about someone selling the info. All our dna has been nicked from the NHS already and Chinese have access to our routers to find out who likes sucking toes in the morning and who has a chess club membership.

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Anyone who’s been to wickes carpark early in the morning knows how it works. Big groups of blokes waiting around to be hired cash in hand. Just normal practice. If they wanted to cut off illegal work that would be the place to start

So you have to ask who will benefit from digital id? People or government / data companies

I can’t see any benefits

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Legalise weed and do away with cash. BOSH!

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Yep. Or put some actual pressure on UberEats/Deliveroo.

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