I hate to say, but I assume that was about 2 minutes of AI assisted content writing based on a sudden spike of popularity around the news in the instagram algorithm.
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That was his version of events at 1:21:28.
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Yeah you’re probably right, but it’s still nice to see.
Re. The adidas thing, it seemed like Mike made what was probably bad professional communication by various parties into something very personal. It soured me on Carroll.
Anyway, it probably doesn’t matter anymore.
Not going to link to that shit rag, but the news has also made it onto the Sun’s website which I think proves your point. How many skaters, or people who know who MJ is, read the Sun?!
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New York post has it too.
Literally just syndicated slop. Looking over the guardian article, it just wraps some extra text around Louie’s statement issued by thrasher. Would be about 5 minutes of work to create a prompt that would be able to do that for any kind of statement post like Thrashers.
Guess they’re just aiming to get their social posts for it into people’s feeds. Can’t imagine it has much seo benefit.
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I think it’s more a grab for for journalistic resonance to connect with audiences. Sadly.
The people that really know will be feeling it but at least it shares the name around to cement it in the small collection of people who’s name have trancended into the wider world’s knowledge.
If he’s looking from wherever he is, he’ll realise that he didn’t really blow it like he probably thinks he did. He’s always going to be held up as one of the greatest regardless of anyones minor gripes about anything he’s done or said. It matters none.
His footage will live forever.
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Sounds like Mike Carroll’s a lil bitch
Gotta be honest Ned. This kind of talk doesn’t really help these things not to happen. Carroll is a nice man and shit happens in business and life. It’s just really really sad. Online circle jerks are definitely part of the reason. Would you like it if someone you worked with passed and the next day people were blaming you? probably not. What is it that makes Mike Carroll fair game?
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Men are so hard on each other.
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To me, it sounded like Carrol/lakai was doing an MJ shoe of some sort and Carrol wanted MJ and adidas to wait until they could at least offload or rejig a plan but then adidas just dropped the clip. Carrol was pissed and said some shit, they fell out. Was shit on MJ’s part for lack of communication and secrecy but also probably excitement and needing to be hush. Shit on adidas’ part for not having respect for former sponsors and just ploughing on with their schedule. Shit on Carrol’s part for whatever transpired in the fallout. None of this matters now, none of these parties should be lambasted for it. It’s how situations go and the result has resulted in the way it turned out and can’t be changed.
I don’t get speculating about any of that when he just passed. There is a deeper discussion to be had in my view about how cruel we are to each other. But today is not that day for me
I don’t think carroll is a bad apple. I understand his viewpoint if I was sitting on a new release that I had time and money invested in, and a competitor pulled the rug from under it. As said already, I think adidas could have handled things better.
It seems to me carroll is pretty happy these days with his little kid and no more lakai.
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I want to agree with you but it’s tricky, especially when Louie Barletta brought up the Away Days premiere and how things went downhill for MJ after that in his tribute to him on that Thrasher post. It’s natural to want to consider why things went the way they did for him and maybe if something could even be learned from it all. Carroll made some controversial moves in his time after all. Some of the comments Carroll and crailtap have received seem pretty unfair to me though, it’s not a good side of social media that’s for sure.
On the other hand, it’s probably more important to recognise his talent and contribution and focus on that.
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Yer fair point.
I have my opinions but I’m not going to share them. MJ was a deeply complex person there is much more to any of our lives than one business dispute. He was always someone that was going to struggle in later life after being so brilliant at skating imo. I met him in 1998 in SF at a house party, both on mushrooms. Very self aware dude. I always felt like that Man Down part was him at his happiest and most relaxed. He is so much better than everyone else at that point in 2001. It’s like Koston in Falling Down or Guy in Mouse but different because it was a lighthearted friends video. But that level of being the absolute best at that point. I like his later stuff but i could sense he was more jaded and not enjoying it quite as much after that.
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I didn’t blame Mike Carroll.
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Good because it’s not any of our businesses to be blaming anyone
I watched his sponsor me vid earlier, had never seen that. Heartbreaker
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Just remembered the dream I had about Marc last year 
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Feel like I’m spamming this thread a bit so will chill (got the ‘you’ve posted a lot in this topic’ pop up lol), but just got recommended these so had to share.
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