Ukraine and Russia

I think Seb Vettel is also boycotting the Grand Prix too. F1 gets pretty political these days, I dig it

And Verstappen.

Man City left back Zinchenko has come out as well with comments. Obviously Vitaly (sp) Klitschko is the mayor of Kyiv.

Haas are running their car without the very Russian livery tomorrow too, although they still have Ol’ Handsy Mazepin in the drivers seat

Whose their Driver?

Good luck and get yourself organised.

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Reported in the reddit megathread that some Russian soldiers are surrendering in Ukraine. They were brought there without being told what was going on and don’t want to kill Ukrainians. Its reddit so pinch of salt but a nice thought

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I had the weirdest conference call earlier. US, UK, Spain, Romania and Moldova staff all on. I have a TV next to me and see Moldova declaring a state of emergency at the time and yet I’m sat on this call and its like nothing is happening and people seem to be having a laugh. It was really fucking weird. At least one dude (Romanian) had set his background to the Ukrainian flag.

Killing Ukrainians will not sit well with a lot of Russians, they see them as their extended family and neighbours, ect… the opposite of some evil oppressing power that justifies war.

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Can you even imagine being there. It’s so sad for the people that live there that have done nothing wrong.

Ive been working on a building site today with a ā€˜hard as nails’ Polish’ plumber crying his eyes out because he has family in the Ukraine & Russia and doesnt know what he can do to help them.

This was without a doubt Russias choice and Russias fault. They moved in troops, lied about an exercise, they created false flags, blamed everyone else to allow people to assign nuance to aggression. Shortly after used violence to achieve their aims. They were not antagonized by the west, that is just being used as a veil to excuse their actions.

Putins a Brian, and tbh i’m fairly sure you are too. I honestly dont understand why you feel it necessary to constantly play devils advocate to get some reaction, like some sort of sport.
Youre a fucking oddball.

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Apologies for the Daily Mail article (this may well not be accurate), but reports that Russian soldiers have been coerced into fighting:

Also a mobile crematorium is following the front line. Grim.

It’s really hard to tell exactly what’s going on but a lot of the reports of the Russians strategies seem real stupid. They dropped paratroopers on Hostomel Airport far away from their frontline taking heavy anti aircraft fire. Ukraine immediately recaptured it because there was no support whatsoever

Imagine being a Russian soldier in that scenario, that’s a sucidie mission whichever way you look at it

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American actress ends war via poem to Putin:

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Friends of ours in Kiev who live on a farm just outside took in refugees last night. One kid cried all night because her mum had been killed. It’s fucked.

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Obviously not fact checked but crazy thread.

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one of the stronger articles I’ve read in the last three weeks

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Had to go on a big unfollow spree just then.

I can deal with anti vax skaters just about but the sudden war experts I can’t face.

The whole ā€˜don’t believe everything you see’ crowd and the ā€˜different opinions’ like Sotonjon has.

Go fuck yourselves.

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Notice Corbyn et al had to take their names off a letter which seemed to outline a pretty similar hot take to Sotonjon’s basically blaming NATO.

as upthread, the information around war cannot be trusted. People now are so used to having their say, magnifying the effect of the propaganda.

The realities of an actual asymmetric war are being revealed, scary shit.

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My favourite hot take so far was this.

ā€œI knew not getting vaxxed was a good idea, I won’t be allowed to travel to fight in the war.ā€

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