Totally but I’d blame the teachers 
I never knew about Baden Powell either. I knew about Kipling
Yeah I’m siding with removing the offending episodes. But I’m a boosh fan.
The worst one is Robert Downey Jnr in Tropic Thunder
And this is why we don’t need statues of bad people
Yeah no I’m all for pulling them down.
I’m more asking what we can do to be better moving forward.
Thats intended different though right? (Caveat, as per my MB post obviously good intent doesn’t make it acceptable)
The whole point of the character of Kirk Lazarus was to make fun of white artists/actors who go so far into their work that they think they are allowed to appropriate black culture for their own self important artistic desire. It’s highlighting white privilege by the fact that Kirk doesn’t accept he’s being offensive yet the actual black characters in the film are getting upset by it.
Though maybe, using a white actor playing a white actor playing a black actor, in a film written and directed by a white guy, isn’t the most straightforward way of saying that…
This is what I was trying to say but struggle to get my message across.
It’s all baby steps at the moment and hopefully big ones to follow after , finally
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Reminds me of Do the Right Thing. The guy hates the black guys who live on his street but loves Michael Jordan
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This is perfect Jagger.
I swapped the social media side as I found that was clouding a better way (for me) to try and figure out the past present and future.
I feel it’s done me a lot better and taught myself more than re posting some meme i found and never really read
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Go on twitter and type White Chicks into the search bar.
The amount of Gammons saying "It’s ok to cancel little Britain but not the Wayans brother film white chicks’.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
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But you do then get a comment like this and it’s ok which is why I love twitter.
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I’d rather these shows or films were openly discussed so some lessons might be learned rather than just having them taken down in this sort of panicked fashion. It’s a bit embarrassing.
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It’s so easy to have a knee-jerk reaction to a lot of this. Let’s just get rid of the statues and TV shows and then we won’t have to examine the issue any further. One thing that’s coming out of this is that a lot of people will read in to British history in the last few hundred years and they might learn about issues in their appropriate context.
Liverpool University have changed the name of a building to disassociate itself with William Gladstone, a former Prime Minister of the 19th century who defended the Atlantic slave trade. He also advocated for Irish home rule and worked to reform the electorate to improve access for the working class.
He has a mixed legacy but actions like the university’s will just sweep uncomfortable chapters of history under the carpet.
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With LoG I never regarded Papa Lazarou as someone that had blacked up or in any way that it had any racial connotations, I thought it was just this awful nightmarish character with sinister clown-like makeup.
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What made you search for it?
Did you suspect it would be the go to target film for the discussion?
I think context is important, especially in regards to comedy.
We might as well wipe history and start again, while we’re at it, sew our mouths up and chop our fingers off. That’s the only way we’ll hide it all. And that’s all we’re doing, hiding things for future humans. We need to really look at motives and argue in a multi cultural group to work out what is and what isn’t. Nigh on impossible, of course. We’re making a start, I just hope that it’s all justified the further it goes.
Yes, there should be lots of accurate info released about people in history, this makes a more informed idea of what went on in our history. We can’t change it but we can be ashamed and change the future.
I’m definitely guilty of not finding blackface in recent comedy offensive and assuming POC would not either because of context and no racist motive. But yeah, I guess this is the problem, I just hope that it’s not white people taking offence on behalf, because we’re very good at that.
I’m just gutted as Reeves & Mortimer will be next.
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Because I saw 1 post and wondered how many more people tried to make the same comparison.
Gotch as in, I follow what you say.
