Covid

From The Lancet:
We are limited by the length of current reported follow-up data to know with certainty the expected duration that previous infection will protect against COVID-19…

…but you know for a fact natural immunity is the key? You should share your findings with the scientists!

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Is this chief part of some Facebook group where their mission is to spread the word?
‘You will have resistance at first but please keep at it, the sheeple must awaken and you are the only one that can do it.’

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He’s probably part of some super secret cabal of nurses on telegram. When not trying to figure out why all their elderly patients keep dying in their care or planning their next evangelical conversation mission, they swap photos of their favourite healing crystals, essential oils and “Live Laugh Love” cross stitches.

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I would like to know if testing for antibodies and treating everyone as an individual and respecting their personal choices is more or less invasive, risky, expensive and time-consuming than just fucking vaccinating everyone and getting on with things :sweat_smile:

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You don’t actually have to test if you listen to what the patients tell you about their own bodies because they know them so well you should just be able to take them on their word

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Surely being vaccinated for a job in healthcare is no different to the required qualifications such as a medical degree for a doctor or any other relevant professional boards they might be part, or the requirement of keeping up to date on new practices or mandatory training.

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@sotonjon can you explain to us what your agenda is with this? I understand you’re vaccinated so you don’t seem to be a staunch anti-vaxxer. You’re sooo desperate to find flaws with the vaccine and its rollout, but your only issue with it seems to be about mandates. The two things don’t add up, they’re not really related. Are you just a libertarian who’s in a strop about being told what to do and you’re hoping to find some breakthrough issue with the vaccine that will mean they stop giving it to people? Come clean with us about what your real angle is with all this. If it purely is that you’re “Just Asking Questions” then I advise you please shut the fuck up, to everybody you know, and leave it to the swathes of medical experts who actually study this stuff, because you’re helping spread information that can put people in danger. If there’s more to it than that for you then I’d love to hear you be honest with yourself and with us about what it is.

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Unless you’re some way qualified in this, ie youre a healthcare professional with years of firsthand quantifiable proof about this shit instead of “read this link, makes you think eh?” Facebook nonsense.

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I’m currently watching the Qanon documentary: into the storm and there’s so many parallels with the anti vax , lockdown and Qanon crowd.
People are so easily conned it’s no wonder it’s a constantly growing phenomenon which is fuelled by antagonists and people finding any small morsel to try flip the overwhelming information.
Seems this is only the beginning and reminded me of this article I read the other week.

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I mean maybe but where’s the rest of that article? It’s just an assertion followed up by absolutely nothing at all.

I posted it after wayouts last post and how people can be put in danger form the wrong info . Just seeing the patterns and similarities and how it all seems to be connected unfortunately

If the issue is truly just mandates, I wonder how @sotonjon feels about Polio, MMR, Tetanus, Meningitis etc all being mandated vaccines for healthcare professionals. Is it some nonsense about mRNA vaccines being untested and experimental (spoiler alert: they aren’t and they’re not, at least not to any extent that’s unusual in medicine)? My mate’s mum (bless her, she was the fucking best) was offered a new treatment as part of a trial for her cancer; it bought her another 3 months of decent enough quality of life and another 6 after that of being able to get her affairs in order and “wind down” towards a peaceful, painless death. Should my mate be kicking off because she died directly after this treatment? Because iT’s NeW aNd ExPeRiMeNtAl? Fuck no. Being on the cutting edge is wicked. Scientists know what they’re doing. If we listened to them instead of literally anybody else, the entire world would be a much better place.

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And here’s another link to another reputable, trustworthy source explaining why post infection immunity is bollocks:

Sotonjon: have you actually had the politeness to read the links I’m providing, I’ve read yours but this is the third time I’ve asked you with still no response.

Of course he’s not reading them, he’s not arguing in good faith. I doubt he even reads the ones he posts in any great detail either, that’s why he never says anything when pasting the links in here.

He’ll post some half hearted response to the first few arguments he gets then give up until someone forwards him a new thing to spam everyone with. And the next one won’t hold up to any scrutiny either.

He’s just trolling politely.

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I’ve got it now. It’s not good. Got so much on and the little one still off school.

Feels like a standard cold at the minute, but with no blocked nose, which is a bonus I suppose.

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Response to the FOI data ‘revelation’:

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My wife’s got it too. Not left the house in a week. Starting to go more stir crazy than normal.

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Hope you guy are ok mate! Get well soon

Wife has positive covid test. Daughter and I negative. They are going for PCR tomorrow evening. Fingers crossed as 10 days in isolation with kids will drive me insane

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Son tested positive today. He’s absolutely fine. Everyone else is negative for now. Stoked