Yes, I did catch that piece of news.
Big loss.
Might check this doc tonight, thanks.
Yeah, I thought that doc was quite weird. I noticed that V were never mentioned - and even Suburban Base, Nicky Blackmarket, Moving Shadow…how can you make a doc on that music and not have those at the forefront?
In fact, with Drum & Bass, how the fuck do you go for 90 mins and not even mention pirate radio?!? Where was Kool FM?
To have a documentary on a style of music and not actually mention where it came from or talk about influences is odd. Most music is at its most interesting at it’s inception, but this just skipped that altogether.
Glad to see Randall get his dues, though.
…and the one good thing about this documentary is that it still leaves it wide open for someone to come along and do a better job.
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It seemed that 95 is where drum and bass shed its jungle name, or started to and that’s where this picks that up from.
Loads was missed out but it would be one seriously lengthy documentary to encapsulate all of it.
It has been mentioned a few times that I’ve seen that it might have worked better as a series that covers a couple of years at a time to allow more time for more detail, or possibly even labels / camps etc.
I think the series format would work.
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Goldie gave me a lifetime Metalheadz pass as I did him a very random favour in about '95 or so. Nice guy…and it meant that after work on sundays, I’d go to the Bluenote for dinner and stay there till about midnight. Those sunday sessions were sick - and getting in for free was a solid bonus.
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…and this:
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Seriously, that pass was gold. I got one, and so did my mate who I skated with. No queueing. Straight in on the guest list line…
I’d have been about 17-18 and walking straight in. People we’re probably pissed at some young kids walking up like that. It was great. ha ha
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Having it all on your doorstep was a bonus all of the time, lucky gits.
Apparently there is a forthcoming dnb / jungle doc called The Rest is History which is looking like it might be pretty good.
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Might be but it is also the title of a yet to be released documentary.
Here is a 3yr old trailer.
i said to gertz the other day he needs to make a hip hop evolution version of the jungle/d&b scene. impossible to do it justice in one doc - spread it out to a series then V records gets its own episode, metalheadz gets own episode, pirate radio gets own episode etc
metalheadz at blue note was so so so good. was 5 minutes from my uni halls - proper result, i went pretty much every week the whole time it was there from late 95. one week we had a trip to amsterdam and the coach got back at 9pm, we went straight to blue note with our fancy weed haha. we joined as members after the first time - £10 for the card which meant you got in £4 and had the members queue which jumped the guest list queue and didnt get searched at all. my friends worked behind the bar so we could get a round of beers for £1. that place was amazing.
remember goldie parking his porsche boxter literally outside the door and bowling in with bjork…
there is this documentary as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jRTi8VtKM4
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Yeah, episodic like HHE doc would be amazing. So many stories to tell…
Blue Note was so good for those Sunday sessions.
Just finishing up with this. I like watching Goldie interviews, he’s a funny charismatic dude. Same for Hype, seems like a real Lahndahn geezer - not really into his sound though to be honest. And that guy from Pendulum nailed it dissing dub plates and the whole pointlessness of the exclusivity of that part of the DJ scene.
As a few others said earlier, it’s missed out on loads of early history, from rave to jungle to dnb and whole sections of the sound, record labels, characters, DJs, etc. Seems like a few heads got completely overlooked - nothing about DJ Rap, Kemistry and Storm. Thought it was odd how their timeline graphics would mention a tune or release, but then the following section usually had nothing about that tune or club closure or whatever.
This tune was mentioned by Tony Colman / London Elektricity in that dnb doc - director credit Joe Gavin - assuming that its MCRs / Note`s Joe Gavin?
I’m halfway through this on NowTV but imagine it’s on sky or internet somewhere. Really well done and surprisingly candid, there’s the usual story everyone knows but a lot of behind the scenes stuff I had no idea about.
I always found their myth building interesting - at this point it’s sometimes hard to tell what originally happened versus what they (mostly RZA) revised after the fact.
That doc was really good…
Did you watch the serialised TV show? Not sure it was available anywhere in the UK so I grabbed a download.
It was really good fun, though…
Yeah it’s split onto 4 episodes. Didn’t realise it was originally one film, makes sense
I really don’t know much at all about Wu Tang other than their names and that of the songs I’ve heard I really like them.
In fact i’m a total noob with regards to rap music.
I chucked this on the other night and really enjoyed it.
Found myself checking out a lot of bands from it as well;
The docs probably a good starting point if you can watch it then. It goes quite into the mythology they built up around themselves and the structure that initially made them successful - signed as a group but made up of individual rappers who could go do their own thing.
I’m not that much into hip hop anymore but I was when I was younger (Thanks Gravel Pit) and have always liked Wu.
Basically everything they did together and separate 94-2000 was great. Afterwards, it’s hit and miss on group albums but there’s been a few decent solo albums and projects since.
