Don’t know about Europe, it’s TKC in the UK
Cheers man, I’ll bug them too. I realise this is exceptionally anal but I like what I like
You’re talking to the guy who already knows the woodshop and preferred board shape code he rides
I feel with girl that stuff is easier to find out though. What’s a girl deck like? Never ever had a Crail deck before
Flat-ish concave. Mellow shapes. Similar to Palace, but I’m not particularly sensitive to board shapes, just concave. G023 is 8.125 I think, biggish nose, Malto usually rides them. As I got a board in UK and one in Estonia I wanted to have exactly same setup for when I skate either place so this is what I’m aiming for and knowing the board code helps. Girl always print them on the deck.
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perhaps wrongly but when i talk about shape i guess im mostly talking about concave. i like the TM ones because they’re flat-ish too and have a big nose, maybe i’d like a girl deck. oh my god their website has specifics of nose and tail length, wheelbase, everything!
You can even find reviews on exact board shapes as they use a code
If you look at this search you can see Cory, Malto and Jerry have all had same shape and it’s often listed in descriptions so it’s quite easy to find the same shape online board shape g023 - Google Search
annoyingly all of their 7.75s have a shorter wheelbase than my ridiculously long wheelbase TM decks
Be careful with Girl type boards if you’re used to Toy types. The flat gap between the truck holes and the initial start of the kick is massive, meaning that if like me, you gauge where your foot is on the board by feeling where the kick is then you’ll be in a freaky wheelying frenzy. You’re pop, balance for manuals and general pushing will be off.
Yoy boards kick right after the bolts and girls can have nearly 2 inches of flat before the kick. So you can stick you foot on nestle your foot against the kick but by then you’re already weighting the tail and pulling a wheelie.
see i recently moved from independent to thunder trucks based on a video by that awesome canadian fella who reviews everything (the guy in @Mark’s recent post) . it took a skate or two to get used to but i love the difference it made. i wish all board brands listed dimensions like crail do, that’d be so useful. we’re such a fucking basic industry jesus
Coming back to skating from MTB I’ve thought this, when I buy bike bits I can get detailed geometry and sizing to the millimetre / 10th of a degree sometimes, and a difference of a few mm or a couple of degrees can make a massive difference.
Those little differences make a big difference on a setup too, even I can tell that as basically a complete beginner. And changing one thing (say truck height) has a knock on to other things (like how long your nose / tail needs to be) so different trucks suit different board shapes.
Ben DeGros videos are really good for this if you’re a geek.
I reckon you notice it more as a finicky old man, didn’t care what I skated as a kid I just skated it.
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Time to rewatch the Professor Schmitt 9 club!
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oh 100%, as a kid i bought decks based upon their graphic and price. having said that, i’ve skated nearly everyday for over 20 years and only now do i feel like i have lasting consistency on a large variety of tricks. in the past it was always gain a trick lose a trick
Ha, you need to refer to my truck tipping point diagram. Shows the difference between thunder types against Indy types, and I used Toy and Girl decks as examples too.
I was amazed that Paul Schmidt talks about these things exactly how I think of them.
my man, you have sent me that diagram at least twice now
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I basically have no tricks now (does pushing count?) but I can still tell if the geo of a setup is wrong compared to what I’m used to. Even running the massive cruiser wheels I currently have on.
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so i’m clearly a fucking retard. i pulled out one of my stockpiled TM decks and it has a barcode on it that contains “BRDTM0187”
i googled that and found that Tum Yeto’s site and the TM site do actually have wheelbase, tail, nose, concave description listed
i was browsing those sites on my phone and for some reason it wasn’t displaying the info
I had this board and it did the exact same thiing! I was dead light then and NEVER snapped boards… It was called some kind of diet construction or something… makes me believe even more that there was something up with them!
93-95 was the worst for boards, I have mates that would be snapping boards from first ollie to half hour later.
I broke a board within 10 mins, it was a Plan B Ronnie Bertino. And years later a shop was chucking me some stuff here and then and the first deck they gave me was a Zero Jamie T and was a shape I knew, amazing board but I decided to Kickflip a 6 or 7 first go and rode away on a snapped tail. You definitely have to warm a deck in by being mellow, get it used to flexing otherwise it will go on the first big flex impact.
Think you are right.
I didn’t mention that detail because I wasn’t sure.
Not exactly hefty myself at the time.
