not super-hero at all really. there’s foreshadowing of bruce wayne and that, but it’s really more a film about how the breakdown of society leads to marginalised people going nuts and attacking the social higher ups
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Yeah get what you’re saying but
In my showing there wasn’t really any laughing at the violence and where there was it was more in an uncomfortable way at how graphic it was rather than genuinely finding it funny
That one scene was pretty realistic and graphic tbf, especially I imagine for those going in expecting a comic book film
Yeah i’d have to watch it to get the context etc. I don’t mind violence at all if done in the right context but the way it was put sounds crazy.
I’m pretty against violence in computer games because I don’t trust peoples mindsets today to be able to cope with it in the right way. Although I know that plenty of people can so I can’t say for definite that it’s completely wrong.
My middle lad is 5 and he comes back from school telling me what games he’s been playing with his mate Oscar. They end up playing things that he has no clue about, Coming home and saying watch out i’m Jason Voorhees and i’m gonna chop you. From what I can gather is that his mates dad plays games, watches films and lets his kids be exposed to it. And they play fortnight which sounds bonkers to me at that age. I’m going off topic here I know, but depicted violence IS having an effect on people even if we as individuals can cope with it fine.
see this is something that massively pisses me off. parents should NOT be letting smaller children watch or play these things. my eldest is 7 and there’s kids in his class who’s older siblings and parents let them play games like call of duty and fortnite. i’m not super strict on age limits for some things, like some of the harry potter films are 12s because of magical violence or whatever but small kids sould not be watching/playing 15s
I have let my kids watch Harry Potter, they get the difference between fantasy and reality. Most games I have an issue with are based on reality even if presented in a fantastical way so kids are getting desensitised to violence that could easily be reacreated in real life.
Kids need more lessons in empathy I think, seems like empathy is in short supply.
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But it’s not inciting people to commit acts of violence is it? While I agree your son should certainly not know who Jason Vorhees is, he’s not going to come home and attack you with a knife is he, which is the genuine concern some people in the U.S. seem to have, that people are going to watch a movie or play a violent game and then it will trigger them to do something violent. I don’t believe for a second that games or films can make peoples morals change, what can make peoples morals change is when they spend all their time playing games and watching movies rather than interacting with people, that lack of interaction is what drives people to be detached from society, not the actual games/movies themselves.
That’s where I think you’re wrong. You’re basing that idea by using your mindset, which is probably way more developed from exposure to other cultures and ideas than many other peoples. I really think that things like skateboarding helps with this, it takes us way outside of our local culture which we would have grown up in.
You can’t assume that every brain has had the exposure or the inquisitiveness of yours, you only have to watch reality TV to see that normal people are thick as fuck (albeit sensationalised for entertainment)
If kids have parents that have no inclination to be anything more than what is fed to them then they are not going to have much outside influence to help them not to turn into their parents.
fully agree with both of these. i worry about where the next generation is headed
Lets face it, the quality of stuff that is fed to the normal person is horrendous. People have no chance. I’m no tin foil tuesday but it does make you wonder if the “establishment” ARE keeping us dumb.
I agree in part, I think empathy is what is lacking in lots of peoples lives, and that empathy grows from being around and interacting with a variety of people, I genuinely feel like everyone would be more rounded if they had experienced working in either retail or hospitality at some point.
But blaming movies or games for violence is pretty short sighted, it’s just one small part of a whole mixture of things that can cause people to have a lack of empathy. The irony when news outlets blame games or movies when they are quite often peddling hate themselves is just astounding. (insert Daily Mail cover montage here)
Agree totally, I’m not blaming games/films solely, they are just not helping the problem. People are not developed enough to take things liek this for what they are. Most people are not going to actually go out and beat up a protistute, shoot someone, steal a car and run over them, go around the street with weapons and harm random people etc. But it does happen and of course it always has done before games etc, people get a kick out of violence, that’s a human trait.
You hear of when people actually take a life and many say that the incident changed them forever, they replay it every day and that it has effected them so much, I wonder what percentage of people who have took a life away are effected like this as opposed to people who just don’t give a fuck and regard life as something throwaway for their entertainment.
Imo games/films are a minor minor driver of such behaviours in the grand scheme of things they shouldn’t even really be talked about to the extent that they are.
They just provide a nice, convenient package to place blame on rather than dealing with the much more sticky, complicated cruxes of the matter.
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Is the new Child’s Play worth a watch?
The trouble is that they are people played down by the people who are capable of seeing games for what they are, entertainment. No one on here will see games are a problem because they aren’t to them. No one who plays games regardless of their levels of empathy or levels of emotional intelligence is going to accept that something is affecting them. You can’t speak on behalf of everyone, not everyone is thinking how you do.
I know I can’t but I think when looking at what drives a person to commit a violent act video games/ films are such a minor part of all this and in no way a tipping point.
If somebody plays loads of GTA then go out and kill somebody I think the cause of that is way more deep than the game itself
I think too much energy is wasted dragging media into discussions on what causes people to kill.
He’s not saying games aren’t a problem though, he’s saying they are a minor driver, and I would agree, the problem is when something happens, a mass shooting being the prime example, that people seek to blame a single thing “It’s Games!” “It’s the parents!” when most level headed people will know it is a mix of a whole bunch of little things, we all know there’s a standard profile for serial killers, they’re generally white, middle aged, educated men. But no one says “It’s their ethnicity!” because everyone knows it’s ridiculous to think like that.
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I’m not saying games are making people go out and kill, that is not what they are doing, people who are going to do that will do that anyway, it’s in them regardless. What i’m saying is that games are contributing to desensitising normal people to the level of violence. People having fun casually ending someones life with no thought to that person and their life/background. I know it’s a huge leap and games are only a tiny part of it but people are caring less about others and more about themselves and how they can get theirs etc. I feel that thins needs to change and the lack of regard to life can be placed at the doorstep of millions of places, including games and films.
I think we’re agreeing but at what levels they impact is where we are different on.
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I thought it was mainly for four reasons that Joker rubbed America up the wrong way.
- Showed the government/rich to be cunts.
- Showed poor people taking a stand.
- He showed no remorse to his actions/killings.
- Batman universe films are meant to be cartoon/comic book family violence.
The ending was no more violent than Leonardo Dicaprio getting killed in The Departed say. Heath Ledger’s Joker didn’t give a fuck when blowing up hospitals, ect.
