The Day Shall Come, more sad than funny, but I was entertained even if I didn’t really laugh. He’s on a mission for sure.
Whatever you say mate
I like Kermode but only after i’ve seen the film.
He sometimes has an opinion that makes me go in expecting to dislike a part of the film or expect it to be a certain way.
Have not read any Joker reviews on purpose.
Did I say it was brilliant already?
Don’t get how polarizing the Joker has been, was a pretty average film I’m surprised at the strong reactions it has been generating.
nah i kind of get it. i have a pretty weird sense of humour but when you and an entire cinema are laughing at someone getting stabbed in the eye you have to wonder. you could definitely read a lot into the social commentary of the whole thing, or you could just enjoy it for what it is. either way it’s not how violent it is but the reaction to the violence - you’re happy he’s doing it, you want him to win blah blah
It’s been mostly U.S. reactions though hasn’t it, the idea that it was going to spark some sort of InCel uprising…
Haven’t seen any U.K. media outlets up in arms about it.
And it’s a massive film that’s gone beyond the nerd audience to be completely mainstream. It’s not like you’re watching a snuff movie.
wasn’t that just trolling from 4chan?
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You’d think a film based on a Jo Nesbo book and produced by Martin Scorcese with Michael Fassbender, Chloe Sevigny, Charlotte Gainsbourg and Val Kilmer in it would be good, but The Snowman absolutely is not. In case anybody’s seen it pop up on Netflix.
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I saw this twice at the cinema (I’ve got a limitless card) because after the first viewing I thought surely it must be better than it is and that I must have missed something, but no, just a really average film.
Apparently Kilmer was in a reallllly bad place at the time though and was struggling to even get his lines out, Oliver Reed style, it changes it slightly when you watch it knowing that.
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I can confirm the book is fucking dreadful as well.
There were “Warnings” I’m not sure who these warnings came from though… the same people that blame video games for violence I would imagine…
The PR department?
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yeah that’d make sense for sure. the incel thing in general is crazy as fuck though, perhaps topic for another thread?
Do you think? I thought it was pretty on the nose and obvious in what it was trying to say, not much reading into needed
Which was one thing I disliked about it, felt like a sixth form drama student trying to make something ‘deep’ and ‘current’
I was so excited when I heard about this film as I loved the book and was even more pleased when I saw who was to be involved. I have a feeling there must’ve been something that went badly wrong during the production. The promotion of it was so weird as well, all those involved and even the critics just seemed really embarrassed. Won’t be watching it!
to your first point, without trying to brown nose, you generally come across as fairly smart. i think your average violent-film or comic-book guy isn’t necessarily going to see the whole social affairs side of it. i just don’t think MOST people read that much into things, if they did we probably wouldn’t have brexit right now
second point, i don’t feel it was that clumsy. going back to my thing earlier, you’re laughing at the violence. it really gets you into the joker ethos without smacking you over the head with it. it wasn’t subtle but i thought it was well done (not sixth form drama student or film study major at all)
Film looks awful and i’m not into the whole super hero thing anyway. Most people I know have loved it.
I’d feel pretty weird about a whole cinema laughing at people being stabbed in the eye. That sounds horific.
It’s a comic book movie. It’s horrific in something like Snowtown (no relation to The Snowman) but is it really anything more than comic book / video game ‘violence’ in something like this?
