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How fucked up do you have to be to do this?

Poor old facebook

How do you feel about doctors working without PPE?

They get good care though. Easily could grab most of the year off full pay because of it

Why is ā€˜Thereā€™s going to be a recessionā€™ headline news? Now?

Maybe some of the worst idiots would need this explained following Brexit, but is this really new information for anybody now?

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Shouldnā€™t it be more of a question of how it will be? With everyone looking to save money now you really have to wonder how many businesses will be forced to close, it seems to be hitting the tourism industry pretty hard unsurprisingly.

I went into work this morning for a couple of hours as I have done every wed morning for the past 2 months, to basically tie up jobs, print plans to post out with no contact with anyone else at all. I walk through some fields and donā€™t see anyone or a car until I get to work which is on the main road, this morning the road was really busy and I spent most of the morning answering the phone to people asking if we are open as normal. I felt bad saying no we are not as we feel itā€™s not safe to yet. When I left work hoping for a quiet walk home as I have gotten so used to, I had to wait for the traffic, cars of many people, old peeps in classic soft tops and as I crossed I saw an NHS car and as they drove past I saw a lad in his 20ā€™s head out of the window visibly trying to take advantage of the air. It didnā€™t take much working out that they were driving to the hospital. Basically all iā€™m saying is, yeah you were all right, and as predicted the public have taken this green light and run away with it and had a party totally oblivious to the numbers of people dying. Itā€™s as if these numbers are just that, not even people any more.

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Iā€™m sure thereā€™s some science around the numbers thing, Iā€™ll find a link later if I remember. We can visualise ten people, or even a hundred, but beyond a point it just becomes abstract and loses all meaning.

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Yeah, iā€™m sure there is a name for it too.

interesting to see where the numbers go in the next few weeks. life looks completely normal up here (although my favourite skate car park is still empty)

Our head office is opening back up in June. Iā€™m basically going to refuse to go in because itā€™s literally pointless for me to do so but others arenā€™t going to be so lucky as me.

My job is 100% web based so I just need to be at a computer and Iā€™m away.

We all got set up to work from home before we shut down and it was working fine. Now suddenly thereā€™s pressure to come back into the office breathing all the same air as everyone for hours at a time. :man_shrugging:

I guess we briefly thought the world was going to change after all this and there were going to be seismic shifts in the way companies operate blah blah blah but itā€™s just going go back as we were before isnā€™t it. Presenteeism back with a vengeance.

I think itā€™s lame as fuck. Yeah thereā€™s pressure to get making money again to keep going and weā€™re all going to have to work out a way to work with this thing out there but jesus christ we are not even through the first wave.

Until thereā€™s a way we can work out what to do about childcare we canā€™t even get going as a country surely? I was the only one who raised childcare as an issue in our group meeting thing and I think itā€™s because our head office is full of single people with no kids.

Rambling shit post sorry. Just feeling a bit lame.

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Presenteeism, itā€™s so fucking dumb.

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What do your other colleagues say? I guess if youā€™re the lone voice then that youā€™re going to probably be a bit stuck but if there are a number of people thinking the same way then perhaps working remotely and sticking to your guns on that will work out ok?

In my office itā€™s fairly common for people to work away from the office and nearly all meetings were switched to zoom long ago anyway so I think covid will just encourage more people to stay at home.

The thing thatā€™s going to cause a spike is peer pressure, being seen to be not being a germaphobe weirdo when others are seemingly back to normal.
Every single person will be waiting for others to make the first move for everything and then each step will get quicker until everyone is acting normal thinking itā€™s all over. Then weā€™ll get hit by the second wave of big ā€œnumbersā€
Pressure that weā€™re all creating for each other. I agree that while I think the initial message was clear from Boris, that every effort afterwards has been made to muddle the public into making their own decisions and possible downfall.
What a mess.
Props Les!

We had a call from our nursery today canvassing interest if they were to open at the start of June, so depending what your usual arrangements are there might be options. Of course whether you want to send your littlun to nursery is an entirely different matter, and a conversation weā€™re having.

fuck them then. iā€™ve told a few mates that iā€™m not seeing them anytime soon even if lockdown is lifted completely. a pint in a pub isnā€™t worth it

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The thing is, people shouldnā€™t be forced if they donā€™t think itā€™s safe, our contract with our childcare says if they are working and we deny their service then we still have to pay or we lose our place. Fuck that! Iā€™m not being forced into sending kids into danger so theyā€™ll stay home until itā€™s safe and if they want to try and charge us for not using them then they can try.

Our nursery have been pretty good and not charged us since they went off. We keep getting emails from them trying to gauge interest in people coming back but hopefully I can stay furloughed as long as possible.

Nah definitely, totally agree. Weā€™re in two minds, itā€™s very unlikely weā€™ll be back in work any time soon but been able to have a couple of clear days working from home would make a huge difference to our own well being. Weā€™re balancing either her going back to nursery or me going down to four days. Then thereā€™s the other benefits of nursery - she really misses other kids, and the socialisation aspect is really important. Also the nursery are awesome, asked people to pay if they could afford it but made it clear that there would be no repercussions if people couldnā€™t.

Itā€™s not a black and white choice for anyone I guess is my point.

Definitely, Iā€™d love the kids to go back and I still not go to work haha, the dream scenario in a perfect world. I donā€™t think weā€™ll get that. We got a text from junior school today saying basically, we donā€™t think we should be opening but if we have to in June then let us know your thought so we can establish numbers.