The probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about 3.49 times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by police} on average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling show that there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in the extent of racial bias in police shootings, with some counties showing relative risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. Finally, analysis of police shooting data as a function of county-level predictors suggests that racial bias in police shootings is most likely to emerge in police departments in larger metropolitan counties with low median incomes and a sizable portion of black residents, especially when there is high financial inequality in that county
Thatâs just one study, thereâs lots more out there.
With stats like that, if youâre a cop in America, everything is about race. If this was a one off thing Iâd be more inclined to agree with you. But i think you are being naive.
I agree with you to a point and I was pretty surprised at how quickly/instantly it was turned into a race issue by the media, Iâd rather it would be reported without physical descriptions. If descriptions are needed to help identify a suspect on the run then that would be different, or if the case was already in court and racial discrimination had come up then it would be relevant as well.
That said, there is something badly, badly wrong with the police in the States and their treatment of black people. Iâm surprised and yet not so surprised that nothing has been done to improve things.
Thatâs a bit harsh. I get where heâs coming from but in this situation, the race descriptions are key to highlighting the problem, whether it works like that to most americans is debateable, but to the outside world itâs seen as a massive problem that needs stamping out. The problem is hating people with anything but white skin is still a big thing in huge parts of America and the way these are reported could possibly have the opposite effect i.e. some people feling itâs a good job done, again.
Fuck me! Youâve put 1 and 1 together and got about 14! Firstly youâve made an (incorrect) assumption on my race straight away, Iâm mixed race.
Secondly, my point isnât that racism isnât the case here, or that it isnât a huge fucking issue in the U.S., particularly in the police force. My point is that assumptions (even if they are 99% likely) are still assumptions, and until its a fact that he was killed because he was black then he should be labelled as a man rather than a black man.
Making distinctions of colour is helping no one and only reinforces segregation.
Itâs not about the literal motives of the cop in question, and whether he wanted a man to die because he was black, itâs about a system of authority and justice which is heavily weighted against black people. More black people die at the hands of US policemen than white people. Black people face a prejudiced system of profiling, deterrence and punishment which leads to situations like this unnecessarily escalating in such a tragic way.
one of the biggest issues with this is how utterly acceptable it is in the US. outside of New York and California the majority would see nothing wrong with most of the cop-shootings and to argue against the police in these cases is un-American
This right here should tell you all you need to know. America essentially doesnât have a police force. Itâs been ruled in court that they have no obligation to protect citizens, and that âprotect and serveâ is merely a slogan. They are there to keep order, and a lot of that involves holding down certain groups of people, in their eyes. As an organisation theyâre little more than a government employed gang, and anyone getting in to it to be a âgood eggâ has been duped. The average copâs IQ is insanely low and they regularly turn away applicants for being too clever.
Durham police have said a minor offence did happen on the local news, Boris says that they have just said that the case was closed on national news, ffs.
Can you quote the person that said that Racism isnât an issue Mick? Because no one said it. Everyone knows itâs a huge problem and is a constant battle for any person of colour in white policed areas. Deacon, albeit naively said that stating the personâs colour in a death situation shouldnât be an issue because on the face of it (because a person of power and stature is involved) it wasnât race related, it was crime related. This is wrong and many of us pointed out that in this case, and any case of similar nature, the race being mentioned is totally needed as itâs possibly a huge driving force to how the situation even evolved. I personally said that in a perfect world Deacon would be right but America is not the perfect world, itâs one of the most flawed we know.
The fact that that amount of officers are protecting the person in question just cements the fact that the whole place is still riddled and pretty much built on racism.
So thereâs going to be further easing in the UK, the numbers really donât look too good enough to back that up to me.
Meanwhile South Korea is experiencing another spike and is closing museums etc again and theyâve had nowhere near the amount of deaths weâve seen here.