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https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1269010515965116416?s=21

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Now we’re talking…

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Yes, Doing things that annoy and affect while not endangering their own lives and futures. Doing things that demoralise the aim is less effective. I’m not not going to outline what I think constitutes either way because none of you will read in detail enough to take it as it’s intended.

good work bristol.

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Apparently there’s been some long ongoing discussion as to whether to rewrite the plaque or remove the statue entirely.
Think this settles it.

Best way for it to go. A fucking slave trader has a statue in these times . Good riddance

Priti Patel was highly annoyed that this happened. If anybody needed persuading that toppling this and throwing it into the harbour at Pero’s Bridge (named after a slave who lived most of his life in Bristol), knowing that it makes Patel annoyed should be enough to sway them.

And nicked from somewhere by a dude called Karm Singh -
ā€œPeople who are raging because it’s part of history and part of public property - it’s like having a statue of Jimmy Savile at a kid’s hospital because he raised loads of money for them. If you’re happy for a Jimmy statue to stand, then continue your rage.ā€

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It’s hard to imagine any argument for that statue remaining in place.

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Poor guy.

Looks like things arnt going to blow over.

Swap him for the boozed-up diplomat that killed that kid on his motorbike.

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It’s the exact same argument about all the confederacy shit in the states.

ā€œBuT mAh HiStOrY!ā€

The history is a bunch of inbred white fucks raping and killing and slaving a bunch of people because they were a different colour, and it belongs in the Michael Fabricant Museum like they did with all the nazi shit in Germany. Don’t see many statues of Hitler knocking about these days.

I’ve seen people say it could serve as a reminder as to what the bad sides of history could teach us but I’m not sure there are any statues at Auschwitz.

I bet a lot of those screaming in rage about the Bristol statue getting pulled down got educated on Bristol’s history yesterday and would have never known otherwise.
Hope it stays in the water.

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Fucking statues up is pretty shitty but in this context it’s a means to an end. It’s to make a point and get people to sit up and notice, totally justified.
I do think that statues celebrate the figure where as a monument can be a reminder of history, good or bad. So in the end this statue would have to have been toppled anyway even if it was done legitimately and replaced by something more fitting.

I think that’s part of the problem isn’t it, if accurate British history was taught in schools, or relevant information was on display on monuments and statues such as these, people wouldn’t have to end up resorting to acts like this because we’d all know the true facts.

As it is, most people don’t know anything other than the usual greatest hits of Britush history. Regarding this statue, I’d definitely never heard of him before the other day. If more people had, the statue might have been removed years ago

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I was watching the channel 4 news and British history certainly needs an overhaul. The guy being interviewed said that black history month ( like a months covers anything in education) said the focus is mainly American history. He wanted more on British history and what the country did to profit from Africa and colonialism.
Too fucking right and I hope they’re looking at next terms curriculum as we speak.

When I was in high school in Cape Town, shortly after the legal transition from apartheid to democracy in SA, I literally couldn’t take history for 3 years (which is a pity as it was my favourite subject) while they redid the curriculum. Obviously now it’s actually accurate as opposed to ā€˜woe is me/they took our jerbs’ afrikaans nationalist propaganda. I hope they take some time and really put forward the most important bits if they are considering updating it - especially elements that impact the world to this day.

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I gained most of my knowledge of the British slave trade not from school, but from my parents dragging me round National Trust stately homes and former cotton mills as a kid.

Learn about slavery then have a scone in the cafe

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It definitely came up when I was at school, it wasn’t covered in immense detail but it was hardly off limits or just ignored as a subject either.