That was probably the longest candidate list I’ve ever seen on a ballot paper.
It’s all so depressing isn’t it. Tory landslides in ex safe Labour heartlands.
Is this what the 80s felt like?
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I don’t think the 80s ever really ended did it? Seems like the party which appeals to the very worst in people always has a huge advantage.
I genuinely can’t see any hope for Labour without Scotland and without addressing post-industrial decline head on. Conservatives will be in for longer than the Thatcher-Major era without radical change.
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I just heard something about people being surveyed on Labour policies recently and being in favour of them up until they learned they were Labour policies. Objectivity just not common it seems.
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I really wanted Starmer to come in because I thought he would be able to cut through all the lies and shit they pull on a daily basis but I don’t know what he’s actually offering? Just… not being corbyn isn’t enough I guess.
He’s sort of OK in PMQs but no one pays any attention to that anyway.
God knows.
Hopefully at least the mayoral election will embarrass some tossers (Gammons, Piers Corbyn, Fox)
Come on Binface.
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I agree with the last part, he’s called out lies and incompetence quite a few times and for anyone actually interested in those things being called out it’s been pretty humiliating at times for the PM but no one cares as you say.
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Labour will get nowhere unless Kier fully goes on the offensive against the rival factions inside the party and unites it. Corbyns shitty group of supporters have ruined and continue to ruin any chance that the party has
I said it before here, a centre left Labour party in the last two GEs would’ve cleaned up
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Not sure on that, their bigger problem as far as I can tell is that many of their heartlands were pro-Brexit. A centre left Labour party would have been even more at odds with them.
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Yeah Brexit fucked it. There are loads of white working class areas that were previously labour strongholds, but then the Tories went all in on Brexit and flipped them. It’s a hill many will choose to die on, I can’t see it changing any time soon tbh.
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I voted Lib Dem only way to get the Tories out. The MP for here is Lib Dem, and pansexual!
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It’s hard to say, the Tories are really riding high on the virus/vaccine thing right now, these elections couldn’t have come at a better time. People clearly willing to forgive them any shadiness in return for getting it done. Won’t last forever though. But still you’re probably right, not any time soon.
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I think what would change it would be already deprived areas getting even more deprived, migration from run down areas back to the cities etc. I can’t see a timeline where austerity doesn’t continue, or even get worse. Covid has cost an absolute fortune, gen-z will likely be paying for it their whole lives.
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Corbyn engaged with and appealed to a huge demographic who didn’t vote before (myself included).
I think people assumed that Starmer would retain the voters that JC attracted and being more central that he would also take some of the Tories votes to overtake them in the polls.
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You need Boris to step down as leader first. He has a cult like status, not unlike Corbyn, just Boris seems to have mass appeal some how. The jolly oaf shagger, lad about town even the ladies love. Put Gove in-charge, different story.
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And people calling him ‘Boris’.
First time an electorate has been on first name terms with their PM, surely. Makes him seem more matey.
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Labour need to stop vacillating between left and right. Be the party of the left and try and build for the future. Accept short term defeats. As others have said, maybe the media landscape is too poisoned for this.
