From what I know about Burgess it was instigated by BMXers who led the design
Just did a sort of informal job interview which went well I think until the very end where we got cut off, rejoined the zoom chat with not much more to say and I started babbling without any idea where even the middle of the sentence was going let alone the end of it.
Just shat all over myself like an absolute mega twat. Fuck fuck fuck.
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I’ve felt like that and then got the job. Good luck.
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Nah it was the gibbering madness of a senile old fuck. I’ve ballsed it right up.
Got a final interview on Monday though but basically no confidence that I can actually do the job.
Basically feeling shit about life all round tbh. Not sure what I’m really good for. Got no ‘career’. Just need my old job back. I was shit hot at that and that’s it.
Or be shit hot at the same thing for a much better company.
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I had an interview with a marketing agency who didn’t want to take things any further because I didn’t have enough experience (fair enough I suppose but I was a still a bit surprised)
I’m on stage 3 of 3 with another ad agency who currently use the marketing agency I couldn’t even get a job for!
I errr…didnt mention this.
Full imposter syndrome.
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Tell them you ‘applied’ to the other one just so you could suss them out for this job.
People don’t realise how much of your self esteem is linked to your job until it gets taken away. It’s more than you think, even though a lot of people are a bit blasé about work and go on about hating their job or wishing they didn’t have to work. Totally normal to feel this way. But from what you’ve said before about all the cream you made for the last place you’re obviously good at your job. You’ll do great on Monday.
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Yup feeling this right now. Need to start applying, but want to start my own thing.
Likewise. Been freelance since the financial crash (stumbled into it, not by choice) and the precarious nature fucks with my confidence, mainly as I can never get rid of the false idea of a crew of snide colleagues bitching and picking apart my work, no matter how good it goes - despite some good ongoing, long term work relationships I’ve built up, at times I can’t stop myself thinking that I’ll be fired from the project at a moments notice by somebody in a permanent, unfireable position - never happened and never does anyway…
Then when there’s the inevitable bumps in the project, I find myself thinking how I can get out of it, who/what i can blame, all sorts of daft shit. And then constantly sending out emails and messages looking for work every few weeks/months, which usually fall on deaf ears/spam folder - constant failure does grind down the confidence alright. The worst part about this is that I can trace it all back to early fuck-ups and the long-term struggle to get into my field in the first place, so I always think I’ll be booted out of the great job at any moment.
Fucking ballache.
And that’s why I started on a full-time job just last Monday and am already in at the deep end on yet another messy project, ha.
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I still have imposter syndrome after 25 years of doing my thing. I’m 50 next month. Don’t trust anyone who doesn’t suffer from it.
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I’ve somehow managed to stumble into a senior role at our place and now we have people working for us who went to uni and have proper degrees.
This was just the first job i got after going back to college in my late 20’s. i think i only got it because i could turn a computer on! I wanted to be a Tree Surgeon and play with chainsaws.
@Les_Zeppelin if you’ve got to the 3rd stage of the interview, you must be doing something right!
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Holy shit you just described me perfectly apart from the freelance thing.
When I start thinking like that, I always kind of know it’s bullshit, and that everyone else has the same thoughts too, but it’s almost impossible to talk yourself out of it once you’re in the hole. Sometimes all you can do it sleep it off and maybe tomorrow you’ll be alright again.
I always get like this on the last month or so of a project phase if it looks like timescales are slipping. Doesn’t matter how much amazing work has been done… If a deadline isn’t going to be hit, because my estimations were off or because of a blocker or decision part way through, I feel like a failure and start shitting myself.
Sometimes I wish I could be junior again and not have to stress about the big picture.
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Nailed it. I then start wondering how I can ditch all the stuff I do and become an electrician or something. I also catch myself conciously checking restaurant waiting jobs as I did that for 10 years until the real career eventually happened. Walking by a place with a sign in the window and I think," yeah, I have loads of floor experience, I should do that…" Forget the masters, forget the 15 year career, forget all the milestones…
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Restaurant work should be mandatory, like a pacifist national service. Until you’ve been told to go and unblock a shitter, mopped up baby puke and been screamed at by angry chefs/customers for minimum wage (hello Pizza Hut) you won’t really appreciate the job you have now
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I think about jacking it all in and becoming a carptenter all the time. I just kind of fell into my current job, and its definitely not a ‘career’ at the moment.
Think I’m going to enroll on a college course in something I really enjoy, and build up some knowledge to change jobs.
As satisfying as it would be to just quit without a plan, it’s probably not the smartest idea considering the current climate (I count myself lucky to be in a job at the moment, and definitely don’t take that for granted).
Agree 100% that everyone should have to do restaurant work or something similar. I worked behind a bar for years when I was younger, I’m naturally really shy, and it forced to me to come out of my shell a little bit, and taught me loads about dealing with people.
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It does you good working somewhere where you have no idea who’s coming through the door, but you have to deal with them. And where the other people working there aren’t who you’d usually be around.
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I used to work in an insanely busy pub but the landlord would let us drink because we’d get all of our mates there and it made loads of money.
Had a video premiere in it once and the landlord was so stoked with the turnout.
I used to work Friday nights in a fast food place when I was a shy 18 year old and was absolutely not prepared at the time to have to deal with being called a Michael Fabricant by wankered adults because I wouldn’t put extra pickles on their sandwiches, while off duty staff members did coke in the back.
Jobs like that definitely bring you out of your shell in teenage/early adult years
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I don’t think I have imposter syndrome perse, I have confidence in myself, I know I can do anything I set my mind to to a decent level. if I want it enough. I’m far too lazy though and do not want to put the work in to anything that I am not feeling. My main problem is that i’m not confident in anyone else liking what I do, I literally do everything for myself, no thought for anyone else and I really can’t do that whole pandering to people above me. That’s in general everything. At work if I really have to design to a customers spec i’ll just go through the motions and give them what they want, i’m designing very entry level business shit alot of the time anyway.
So I dunno, I can sort of relate to what you lot are saying but I don’t think I deal with it in the same way, if I was in a normal working environment with a heirachy of other people to impress, it could be different.