Sorry I didn’t see anything about pasty’s, just Havens comment, obviously that’s at a complete other end of the spectrum to everyone else’s examples.
I used to take things forms supermarkets when I was 14/15 with mates, as a bit of a joke more than anything else.
But it’s not something I could morally do now.
I saw a mate for the first time in a couple years recently (he’s moved to London) and he was telling me how Atleast once a week he gets his lunch from McDonald’s by waiting in the self service crowd and grabbing someone else’s order, hes 28 years old. I definitely think less of him now.
I’d love to take all their shit and I’ve mis-scanned a few things in my life, but the anxiety of being confronted in a shop is a million times worse than being told to fuck off from the library ledge.
And for the record, I have stolen shit too. Nowadays I see it from a business owners perspective I guess even though I am still yet to make any decent money.
Stealing a pasty that you wouldn’t have paid for anyway, from a shop that won’t even notice, is just as bad as illegally downloading an album that you wouldn’t normally pay for. As in, not bad at all.
Nobody here’s going into Legacy with a foil-lined JD bag.
Stealing is stealing. If you wouldn’t want someone stealing from you, you shouldn’t steal from others.
‘Victimless crime’ is bollocks too. Any/every company factors their losses into prices set for all customers. If everyone steals shit, prices go up for everyone. If you are super poor, I understand being a little economical with self check outs, but if you are stealing just because you can, you are a cunt.
Not sure what you’re saying with this? It’s stealing but it’s an ok version of stealing?
I wouldn’t steal music either, if it’s not worth me paying for it then it’s not worth my ears hearing it. If it’s good enough that I want to listen to it, it’s good enough to pay for.
If people are charging for their music they feel it has worth, we need to respect their worth not cunt them off because “music should be free, is not physical etc”
There are plenty of amazing artists who make music for the love and give it for free so people who don’t like paying for music could listen to them and ignore the music that costs.
While labels are anonymously sending their new releases to download blogs at the same time they send out promos to the people who get promos, I’m happy that it’s the visibility of this music that’ll lead to a payday for the artist, not 50p from Bandcamp here and there. Depends who it is though, obviously, I do still pay for things if I’m backing the person as an individual.
You have to have insurance to cover loss of stock through theft so the supermarkets pay their insurance as an outgoing and they get their stock back to resell. They don’t really lose out. Insurance companies male money from it. look at any insarance site regarding stock theft cover.
The issue here is that humans are inherently greedy and all have different ideas of what is right or wrong. Their moral meters are set by however you were brought up or based on your life experiences.
Getting one back on whoever you feel has kept you away from your potential. They are not flat out trusting people, they have weighed up the costs of saving wages on checkout peeps to how much will potentially be stolen. And of course, Insurance covers it. They’ll just just pay more insurance the worse it gets if people feel it’s a viable option to steal.
Never been one to steal, might have scanned a chocolate pastry as an all butter one a few times.
However …
The introduction of a pram to my life. Fuck me I forget whats in there and just walk out.
Case of beer, 3 pots of baby food, pair of shorts so far, all from Sainsburys. Don’t feel that great about that, my Mrs does it by accident as well. She clocked as she’d left the shop that she hadn’t paid for the baby clothes, walked back and told the Security Guard. He replied with “You’d already left, why did you bother bringing it back?”
Obviously there is insurance. What I am saying is I’ve not seen any proof that supermarkets recoup this loss by rising prices. If this was the case wouldn’t we see large differences in price for the same product in different supermarkets?
I don’t think it causes price hikes necessarily but I wanted to point out that the supermarkets don’t really get affected, it’s a minor inconvenience that is easily sorted so that’s why I feel that people that steal with that justification are really doing it because they want free shit conveniently whether they are concious of it or not.
If you look at high risk items from stealing, gillette razors, condoms, DVDs, etc. A lot of them come in plastic cases that need opened at the till. So the stealing is on a massive scale for them to have to do this. It’s not one going missing here and there. Gillette products went up in price because it was so rampant at one point.
