I really like that Seahorses song from Rattrays WFTW section.
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Same! Itâs brilliant and fits the section perfectly.
Thereâs a differnce between two people disagreeing over a matter of taste.
No it isnât. It makes people think they should feel bad about what they like. Maybe when people had record collections it was more of a thing, like if youâve got ten records and one is a Rolf Harris album, but itâs an incredibly stupid saying nowadays.
You crazy. By that logic, we might as well be mute and have no opinion, everything we say could be construed by someone.
Just because you donât feel guilty for your tastes, plenty of people are and are made to feel guilty, especially when younger. You know this happens and I definitely have been laughed at for the music I like. Of course it does not matter, who cares, it is silly, and shouldnât really be taken as anything but itâs a saying for this situation, it makes light of the silly, petty way people regard music to be a measure for cool.
Iâm sure some people have felt bullied by comments by others about their tastes but you canât shut down every word associated with that situation because someone was made to feel bad.
Guilty pleasure on the whole is a harmless saying that no one actually means.
So woke 
Right, which is terrible.
Ah, so itâs actually fine.
In my experience itâs a phrase that people use when theyâre embarrassed about what they like, and people are only embarrassed about what they like if theyâve spent time and effort carefully crafting the persona trhey want to project, the way they want ot be seen and thought of.
Itâs saying, âNow, as you know I only like accepted fashionable/cool/safe stuff, but I unironically enjoy something that you wouldnât expect, so I have to announce it with this label so as not to suggest outwardly that I like something you wouldnât expectâ.
What?
Trying to cancel the phrase guilty pleasure.
I think the point is everyone has an opinion it just doesnât mean that yours is wrong because someone else doesnât agree with yours.
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Iâm sick of the phrase after spending 25 years working in music.
People SHOULD feel guilty about what they like. Is that right? OK.
I agree builda, no one should feel guilty about what they like, and it is a silly phrase but itâs one used to make light of a real situation.
What about something like date rape? itâs a phrase that has been manufactured to describe a specific situation, and it makes people uncomfortable, itâs sometimes used by people in joke situations, of course, this is not good but should the phrase date rape not be used? Should it be changed to suit the offended parties? I dunno, itâs a topic for sure.
Youâre being crazy melodramatic and precious. Not everyone is as passionate about music as you are, let them say it and move on.
Got ya. But I do think the phrase makes sense.
It makes sense, but I just think now that more people are into more things, and physcial ownership isnât a thing, itâs less necessary. Some 15 year-old probably doesnât think Stevie Nicks is a guilty pleasure, so thatâs likely the way weâre headed, and itâs a good thing.
Music doesnât need cunty gatekeepers to tell anybody theyâre listening to the wrong thing.
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Iâm not passionate about music. This is the exact opposite of the point Iâm making.
I wouldnât put Stevie Nicks into a guilty pleasure list though. Isnât she always cool?
Little Mix or Taylor Swift maybe.
Well thatâs good that thereâs confusion around her. Fleetwood Mac were a pretty big âguilty pleasureâ when that was a thing.
Oh, I just thought Fleetwood Mac were always cool haha.
Any girl who gets coke blown up her arse is pretty cool, no?
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cool or uncool will always have oppositions and crossovers, thatâs a fact, one persons whatever is another etc etc.
The saying is not derogatory, it has the word pleasure in it. You think that a gatekeeping neckbeard tool fan is going to smite his foes who admit to liking a pop song is going to rain fire down on them shouting âYOU HAVE A GUILTY PLEASURE HAHAHAâ
Get real! While that happens iâm sure they are going to try and use some more sophisticated language. Guilty pleasure is a phrase that people use when they joke about this situation. Itâs not a real diss, itâs something the person in question uses to state that they like something a little out of their obvious style. If it really was guilty, they wouldnât admit it, they do because they are not embarrassed and want to use it as a point of discussion.
