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Pretty much what I’d say, (as the mixing of the fakie and switch terminology gets a no from me), but I would specify fakie FS biggie.

Oh yes this is going to cause a war for two reasons:

  1. It involves starting fakie which is where 85%+ of arguments begin
  2. It involves a non-bigspinned big spin.

So if you break down what’s happening in the Nyjah clip these are the facts.

  1. He does a fakie frontside shove it
  2. He lands in a frontside boardslide
  3. He rides away fakie again

So the rule of thumb is to do everything possible to avoid mixing fakie and switch. (Fakie crooks are the outliers).

So on a trick name equation level it’s a [fakie frontside shove it]+[frontside boardslide].

It can’t be a bigspin because a bigspin is a 360 rotation with your board and a 180 with your body.

i.e if you don’t change your stance from the beginning to the end, no bigspin has occured.

If he rolled away the other way i would say calling it a fakie frontside bigspin boardslide is allowable.

I know there is the convention to call any shove it to slide tricks bigspins but imo it’s just wrong.

Thats my tuppence worth.

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My ruling is it is either fakie or switch, not both. But also trick names made up by teenagers on a ramp platform before street skating really existed means the ‘rules’ are fucked so there is always a question mark.

…and maybe for this one, think about it like this - take away the biggie part. If its Nollie, it would be nollie backlip. If it was fakie (again, minus the biggie) one wouldn’t say ‘fakie ollie switch backlip’.
It’d be fakie front board. The total opposite of nollie backlip. Which it is.

Also, who gives a fuck. ha ha.
If people can picture the trick you are naming in your head then the world will keep on turning, I’m sure.

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That’s the only time I’ll go along with it :+1:

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Yeah, fakie crooks is one of those trick names which destroys any rules applied.
It’s a fucker.

Look at us, having a nice complimentary trick name discussion.
Wow.

How long before Hitler gets mentioned?

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So what are some examples of fakie crooks tricks that pass the vibe check of mixing switch/fakie?

:heart:

So many people get this wrong.

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I hear you but… And I’m only sharing my opinion because if you listen to the Bunt like me there’s been a lot of heated debate about the infamous bigspin fs boardslide to regular…

For me the trick is a fakie fs bigspin frontside boardslide (to fakie - only to be added if your life depended on it). Why? Because of the set-up.

If Cordano or Jah were popping their boards on flat, they are set up with the intention of doing a fakie fs bigspin. It just so happens they are taking this trick to a rail (could be a curb or a lip…) so it’s inevitable that the spinning and rotation have to stop in order to mount the obstacle. What happens afterwards, coming out forwards or to fakie is whatevs.

Same applies for regular bigspin boardslides.

Now, if Cordana or Jah had popped their trick to then land in a fakie 5-0 or fakie nosegrind then this would be a fakie fs shove-it because the set-up and intention were in no way inclined to spin or turn further.

Does that make sense?

Regarding “to switch backlip”, that doesn’t really make sense because at no moment did the skater pop a switch ollie to get over the rail. Saying that feels like trying to add difficulty or kudos where there isn’t.

Maybe I should email the bunt again…? Ha ha!

Skateboarding tricks aren’t based loosely on Minority Report :laughing:

Bearing in mind turning 90 degees to get into a slide is baked in, if you go slowly and break down exactly what has actually happened you (we? The wider skateboarding community) can’t call it a bigspin. Yet we do.

It’s so ingrained into the skateboarding language that we can’t fix it now… :man_shrugging:

I guess it’s a bit like how dictionaries have to update the meaning of words because so many people use them wrong.

Also on the mix between fakie and switch, that’s probably another losing battle for older heads. I think younger skaters do it so much that rule of thumb will soon be gone.

Sorry I don’t get the joke :man_shrugging:t2:

I maintain my position. Hearing people try and re-name bigspin fs board slides pop shove it board slides is heresy. Who’s renaming Ellington’s chef d’œuvres?

For jokes

Forreals

I shouldn’t get involved, but I just can’t help myself…

Fakie slides bug the hell out of me. In no way is Jah lining up to that rail fs. The rail is clearly behind him, but we all have to just conveniently forget this because of the precious fakie rule! It’s a disgrace!

And, I agree with @MaxFacePalmer, clearly a big spin regardless of whether he takes it to regular or back to fakie. What would we call a little fakie 90 degree fs shuv to boardslide (but with Jah sliding facing forward)? That’s why you shouldn’t call it a shuv fs boardslide.

It has been done to death, but, nevertheless, I’ll throw it out there…

Fakie olliie switch front crook.

It’s named as such as there isn’t a better way of describing the grind. If it’s not a switch front crook then you’re into some weird fakie Suski territory and I’d say that a Suski always has to be done grinding forwards and can’t be done fakie otherwise it isn’t a Suski. Likewise there’s no such thing as a frontside Suski.

But it then usually leads to, ‘well, what if the skater turned a little more and didn’t land on the obstacle on their truck but on their tail?’ The suggestion then is quite often that it would be a fakie ollie switch front nose. It isn’t. It’s a fakie ollie fakie back tail. If the skater had popped off the other end of their board, I.e. a switch ollie to begin the trick, then, yes, it would be a switch front nose. The slide is the same, the body positioning is essentially the same, in a still photo one may not be able to tell the difference between the two. Yet, because of the way the skater got into it, the name changes.

The fakie ollie into switch crook/front crook makes the most sense as a way of describing the trick and stands alone as such. Or, to play Devil’s advocate, does it? What about fakie ollie to switch front feeble? Would that be right? Is it different when the trick is done on a ledge or when done on a rail? At some point does it become a fakie ollie fakie Losi grind? Switch front blunt/ fakie ollie fakie back nose blunt, anyone :roll_eyes:

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Fakie (Ollie fakie) (frontside) crooks

No switch Ollie’s going on there.

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And round and round we go…

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Yeah no beef from me. To be honest I’m an old head now so I won’t stand in the way of what the next generation wants to call it.

I will say this though, if a person wants to start adding switch this and that to their fakie tricks, can they or why don’t they do the switch trick? Is a fakie fs tailslide a fakie switch nose slide??

Ha ha! Peace @Scurbrampwoody :pray::+1:

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Fakie ollie bs suski if we use this DISGRACEFUL fakie slide logic.

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Next generation, (and logic), be damned :wink: I’m in my mid fifties and fakie ollie to switch crook / front crook is what it’s always been called, Well, it may have briefly been called a fakie ollie to switch stance or opposite foot pointer or K grind, but you know what I mean. I’ll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognise it as anything else , (yells at cloud).

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The only trick name that ruffles my feathers is ollie north.
Also never understood the new skool aversion towards switch mongo.

Back to footage, surprised @Dent_Face or anyone else hasn’t posted this yet

Tyshawn x Hunt biopic short

Ollie North was funny to us for a couple of months whilst the Iran-Contra scandal was in full swing and Col. Oliver North was all over the news. Obviously one-footed ollie before that, ollie north briefly as a sort of in joke for a bit, then common sense prevailed and we were back to one-foots again. Then of course the trick fell out of favour and got mothballed. That was until THPS resurrected it more than ten years later with the original context having faded from public consciousness and a whole generation started using it without knowing where it came from.

Don’t particularly get the beef with switch mongo as it can look really dope if done right. It’s fine for older skaters to do it because that’s how they learned to push switch. At the time it was a plus as it signalled you were down with the new shit. Some younger skaters, excellent example would be Tiago, do it well. These days it can sometimes look like an affectation, like it’s not a natural thing to do and they’re just doing it for style points, and so can have the opposite effect than intended… I can’t do it for shit. For some reason I was able to push properly both ways from the outset. Damn my natural ability, (cough cough, pushed mongo briefly when I first started in the late 70’s, cough cough).

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Wait, we’re one foot’s originally Ollie north’s?

Always one foot’s for me until thps changed people’s minds

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