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You need to calm down man and actually read what people are saying when they post and not see what you want to see. Think about what you’re saying before you go all guns blazing. So i’m a racist? cool man, think what you like. You’re being a complete bell mate, regardless of what you have been through and who you know.
And to put it on record, I actually like you on here and your interview thingy was amazing but dude, sort your fucking issues out.

I don’t particularly like the term either but some people claiming to be left wing and/or liberal in their views certainly don’t seem to show those qualities in certain situations, all those that seem to love an online pile in for example. So occasionally I see why a term like that might gain traction.

Yeah I admit, I can’t even imagine, as i’m white and grew up in a small part of the Midlands, I can’t help that, all I can do is treat people as i’d like to be treated and I have no prejudice with people of any colour only people who act like cunts. I am guilty of not being able to go through anything that anyone else has had to go through but I can learn to appreciate as much as possible. no one is perfect. But You! how are you fucking different to me? You are white no? you grew up in birmingham, granted, you’ll have witnessed way more than me but your experience is still second hand. Stand down you fucking clown.

Looting vs Murder, what would you rather Have happen to you? And not everyone is there to fucking loot! Why aren’t people as angry about murder as looting!?

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Who is more angry about the looting than the murder? It’s possible the criticise both but also be aware of which is worse.

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I suppose that makes sense yeah, especially on the internet.

I think the problem comes when people (usually right leaning) conflate the actions of the ‘radical left’ with the far-right. I had this discussion with a mate of mine a while back when he said that the far left and far right were the same, and I had to explain how someone being extremely vocal or having an aggressive attitude on issues relating to the benefit of society and equality was not the same as someone taking the same approach in order to maintain power and spread hatred.

Are you fucking real? You thing that mentioning the looting means that we disregard the killing? You fucking joking?

To be fair mate, ‘being racist’ and ‘being ignorant of racial issues’ aren’t necessarily the same thing. At least I don’t think so, but you may disagree

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Ha, so you’re trolling? well done. Why don’t I call you a paedophile?

So if someone was gang raped, A group of people ganged up on another and the victim ended up dying at the hands of one of them. They all raped her and one of them stole their belongings. Should the lesser crimes be let slide because the killing is the worst?

It’s seems to be coming the main conversation, even on here. I see it everywhere I’m checking out news. You accidentally dip into comments, ects.

I love the 720 vid, i’m gonna record over your bits with old reruns of catch phrase.

Really, really strange example…

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really? can’t we just assume that we are all on the same page regarding the initial situation as it’s clear what is wrong there?

yeah it is, it’s as random as Mick’s post scanning.

Don’t you see what you have done here? You’re making up a fake scenario to justify a stance on a real one. That is the problem right here. Haha.

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Fair enough, if that’s what you’re seeing. Personally I’m seeing way more anger about the murder and more people sharing posts related to police racism and brutality myself.

I really hope this will be a catalyst for change in the police over there and possibly even set a good example for the rest of the world in future, but maybe that’s asking too much?

It’s not like you can achieve 100% not racist, like some form of enlightenment. As you said, everyone can be racist. So if you can’t achieve that, that means everyone is forever racist, which implies no progress can ever be made?

Being racist implies a certain activeness. Being ignorant of racial issues means your life has probably afforded you the luxury of not having to worry about it (or actively chose not to engage with it). But if you use the same terminology to describe the screwdriver t-shirt wearing white supremecist as you do to some otherwise morally good person (not sure if this is best description) who just happens to only have white friends and hasn’t had to put themselves in the shoes of others less privileged, it makes it difficult to work out where the boundaries lie. As you said, its not black and white - its not a case of racist or not racist. More do I care about making other peoples lives better nor do I not.

I’m white, I don’t have many friends who aren’t white and i’ve never really had to worry about the colour of my skin. So obviously I’m not best places to decide what is or isn’t racist. I just think theres more of a scale to it

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It’s an example to illustrate that lesser things should not be disregarded even though it’s a given that the main crime is the worst.
It’s not a great example granted but it baffles me why you think that I or anyone else does not understand the initial problem. the looting was mentioned and caused a stir so I added that it is a shame that these situations do undermine the good of what the protest means. Is that not clear?
No, because Mick rode in on his second hand crummy horse and cherry picked the odd word to accuse.

Yeah but you’re a Polar bear so I get your lack of understanding.

See I can make things up too.

No I didn’t get that from what you wrote. We’re all going round in circles here, much like the rest of the world