I’d certainly say you hear more about personal responsibility than anything you hear about big businesses being made to change. I just look at plastic food packaging, no one was crying out for them before but they gradually replaced what worked and was reusable persumably because it was cheaper but it’s somehow the average customer who needs to figure out how they can recycle it now. Good luck with that.
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it has to start with the individual though. if people do nothing, corporations continue to not give a fuck, politicians don’t give a fuck, everyone gets away with murder. planet explodes
how else can this start? politicians and corporations don’t magically start turning their nose up at free money do they. unless people make a noise and start asking for and using green products then nothing ever changes
i’m not saying go join an extinction rebellion march. i’m saying being a little thoughtful and using the products that are available helps this all move along. luckily the younger generation seems a lot more clued up on all of this then us old miserable fucks so maybe there is a hope
first thing first. trump needs to go and take his anti-science bullshit with him
edit - and again, a curse on you and your house if you don’t man-love Attenborough
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“voting with your wallet”.
Also if you remember back in the day, people didn’t just talk about recycling, it was Reduce, Re-use, Recycle. In that order. The first 2 things are about consuming less. But for whatever reason (probably lobbying) they’re got forgotten about.
Everything has got so cheap now. The amount of stuff average people have compared to when I was a kid seems a lot more.
No, I think it’s the other way around. We as consumers will just do whatever is easiest and if the easiest option is there, we’ll take it. Plastic is on the shelves, are we meant to walk past it and buy something more consious. Some will but the majority won’t, we’ll go with whatever is best for the individual and that will come down to cost. Not everyone has the benefit of being able to be consious when buying.
If the easy option is taken away and the new expensive alternative takes over, it becomes the norm and therefore decreases in cost.
The Industries should take on that little bump, in order for us to all go in the right direction. The consumer will buy what is available in the main not in the few.
But you’re right, in a way, it’s down to the people to force the industries, not be consious of what they do with their bad product.
EDit: My spelling is awful today, not even going to correct
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Definitely not Dickie’s fault, that was his brother, the one who made that mess with all the dinosaurs.
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Really enjoying the constant use of ‘Dickie’.
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You should watch this on Netflix if you haven’t already. The plastics industry are such a bunch of Michael Fabricants and we really are powerless to avoid using them .
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i was going to mention about how much of the recycling that people painstakingly separate and clean just ends up in landfill but didn’t want to depress anyone on this most wednesday of wednesdays
@anon90826813 yeah i get you. people are stupid and need to be led to water but still the direction needs to come from the people to begin with (that makes no sense but you know what i mean)
which is why we need daddy attenborough to tell us what to do. see i knew you’d get it
Problem is with most of us humans , unless things directly affect us , we don’t care and just want to get on living the norm - enjoying the consumerism whilst someone else (we don’t care about ) deals with our mess.
Hence - brexit , covid idiots, climate deniers etc
A mate of mine didn’t care about climate change much till he had a kid and suddenly realised what a shit show the kids future is going to be and has become a full climate activist.
But for some, kids aren’t enough for them to venture into the future state of the world, because everything is about the now.
Fucking long road to this planets recovery, which I doubt there will be with the amount of shit thats made for us to buy and eat.
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Buying a lot of smoothie ingredients like frozen berries, nuts, seeds, etc. or muesli, or whatever, all the traditional “healthy” food, all comes in non-recyclable plastic bags. My local council here still collects them, but after that, I don’t know what they do with it. Still can’t work out why Lidl, Aldi, etc. all put their food in non-recyclable packaging when nobody wants or needs this to be the norm.
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was trying to link an article about recycling being made up by the oil industry but then read the rest of the thread 
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I was chatting to the Sainsbury’s home delivery guy as they’ve started to deliver in crates instead of plastic bags and I said it was a good idea, and why couldn’t they also deliver in paper bags as some people will likely complain.
He said a lot of the drivers had suggested double paper bags but the company won’t go for it for whatever reason.
Still, at least they’re cutting down on pointless plastic bags. But organisations could do a lot more
BBC News - Trump and first lady test positive for coronavirus after going into quarantine
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Thoughts and prayers.
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Holy shit that is insane. Feel bad for his wife, first she finds out he has no money and then she gets covid from him in the same week
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and the tape of her bashing christmas decorations was released
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Lul wut
