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7648

I feel like the meaning changed over the last year or so. Pretty sure it used to be an ironic word for people who think they’re really smart but aren’t really and try to flaunt it all the time. Like some people get when they’ve just watched zeitgeist for the first time.

Not really sure what it means nowadays

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7650

I think woke has become the mirror image of gammon. They’re words the two sides call each other

7651

@h_palmer627 i’ll defer to your personal knowledge of him

7652

Gammons think the left use the word woke between them. They don’t.

Pretty sure Gammons don’t call each other Gammons.

… So wrong again.
On everything.

As usual.

Jeez.

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7653

What happens when a Karen is actually called Karen?

7654

No - what I mean is they’re words the two sides call each other rather than themselves. Gammons talk about woke people, woke people talk about gammons.

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7655

That makes more sense.

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7656

Maybe not now no, but people did use it as a positive term for a while, that’s probably getting on for two to three years ago now.

7657

My use of words is at fault. I mean the words gammon and woke are what each side calls the other side

7658

Spot on, woke was say, someone “woke” to Warwick’s shtick. Then it became a joke word to describe conspiracy nuts, now it’s just used to offend but not offend

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7659

I’d say that sounds about right. You no longer get articles by people describing themselves as woke, but once you did. Woke is now the replacement word for PC

7660

We’ve talked a lot about what kinds of views are normal and mainstream, and what kinds are not.

Here’s what research says:

  • 14% of the population are ‘Progressive Activists,’ highly attuned to issues of race, gender and identity
  • 12% are ‘Civic Pragmatists,’ keen to do good in the world but turned off by protests and division
  • 12% are ‘Disengaged Battlers,’ financially insecure, socially liberal but disengaged from mainstream politics
  • 12% are ‘Established Liberals’ - well-to-do Guardian-reading progressives
  • 17% are ‘Loyal Nationals,’ tribal, patriotic and frustrated about the gap between the haves and have-nots (think of working-class patriots in, say, Stoke)
  • 18% are ‘Disengaged Traditionalists,’ self-reliant, ordered and patriotic but not politically active
  • 15% are ‘Backbone Conservatives,’ proud of their country, enthusiastic about Brexit, engaged in politics
7661

Views being normal or mainstream doesn’t mean that they aren’t utterly batshit, just plain wrong and deserving of ridicule and disdain. Significant numbers of people believe that the moon landings were a hoax. But I’m still going to call them complete fucking morons however numerous they may be.

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7662

I’d put myself in the Backbone Conservative 15% and a lot of the people on this forum in the similarly-sized Progressive Activist group

7663

Is this homework?

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7664

It’s been out for a month and costs £4.99. How much more fucking time do you need?

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7665

Sort of. But it’s why I react differently to the Oprah interview.

7666

Do they do mail order? My local newsagent doesn’t have it

7667

There’s a list on their website it includes WHSmiths that stock it as well

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7668

I’ll get that