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Yeah based on that clip it kinda shows him in better favour than her. Is it showing it how it was?
I think he’s obviously a bit removed from normal street level society and in some cloud cuckoo land. Racism is more prevalent now than it has for 30+ years I think. BUT, she brought the white male shit up and lost her credibility. White males can still have opinions on things.
I don’t think it’s racism that is at the core of the whole deal, just that she’s an easy target and people have decided that she shouldn’t be in that position so will use media to break it apart.
There may be racism inherently involved due to the opinions of certain people in power but I don’t think that it’s driven by it.

Also, who gives a fuck, let them be.

Diana wasn’t black and got hounded to death (literally) by the press. It’s royal thing.

What she was doing before getting shouted down was trying to point out that his experience as a white man is probably very different to hers. He’s a grade A cunt for trying to dismiss her, stating that racism doesn’t exist and anyway he’s tired of hearing about it.

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I’m NOT saying there isn’t racism involved, there clearly is, we’re british, Britain is chock full of it, still and it’s not just bubbling under the surface anymore, But the reason Meghan is getting shafted daily (no pun) is because she is not who we want her to be, if she was a white racist scally there would still be persecution.
That dude is def in a bubble, I agree but I understand his sigh when she branded him white male priveledge. There was no need to even bring that into it, it undermined her point, which was a valid opinion.

We know racism is almost everywhere, no-one is denying that. She is taking the Mail to court because her father sold them private letters she sent him while planning the wedding. So her own racist family have done this to her then, if it’s about race?

She only brought it up after he tried to say that the country as a whole isn’t racist. Her opinion on that carries a lot more weight than his. It was absolutely right of her to point that out.

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I don’t particularly like how he came across in that (or her really) but that’s not what he said though is it. This is what’s wrong with the press; words get twisted very easily and yes the Daily Mail are awful for this as well.

You think that “niggling” was a play on words? That would be fucked up if intentional.
I think she is the butt of many a racist opinion, like anyone with colour in our hole of a country but you can’t cover the whole persecution of her under the blanket of racism. It’s many things, it does not matter what colour she is, she will be fucked over regardless if people deem her unworthy. Kate wasn’t unworthy because she was cookie cutter perfect and slotted in, granted she was white but I think class/status, family, ties, influence, marketability had much more to do with it.

Every country is racist but we see it more here because we are here.

I’m white, it’s not up to me to change it, I have my opinion and it’s on the correct side of the argument, race, country, colour, age, sex, gender, anything etc etc does not mean anything, we are all the same. I can certainly punch a few racists in the pub to make myself feel better but I can’t change anything. It’s up to racists to learn and change. How does happen?

I had not seen that paper in particular and I agree, it’s an odd choice of word if unintentional so I lean with you on this, it’s pretty fucked. However, I still stand by that I think racism can’t be the whole reason she is being treated the way she is, it’s in there for sure but there is so much else.

I can be me and I always am, i’m not racist in any way. You want me to shout from the rooftops, start a YT channel confessing my opinion and telling people to change? I’m pretty sure I would get death threats and White male priveledge would crop up a good few times.

No no, have you not past the first words of any of my posts?
Racism is part of it, it’s can’t not be, we’re british but it’s racism can’t be used as the reason she’s being treated the way she is, it’s just in there.

I’d say this country has got to be up there in terms of tolerance, look at how well the gay community is accepted for example, does that mean we should all pat ourselves on the back and ignore any issues? No way.

I’d say so in certain areas of society but in others it’s not at all.
Society is so divided. You can mingle in certain circles and not witness any racist, homophobic etc encounters but in others you will see it daily. It all depends. There are infinite levels of society all fueled by how much experience individuals have in order to accept new opinion that differ from what is immediately around you.

Two white people on TV arguing about what racism is and isn’t, kind of cancels it’s self out, surly?

Obviously, these things still go on but the point that this place is generally pretty tolerant is valid in my opinion.

Thing is, i’m aware but I can’t help that I am me and when I was born.

I always think of it like music fans, people hate on others because they only started listening to a certain artist while they were a fan from the start, what kind of shite is that? It’s not the person’s fault that they weren’t born earlier or wasn’t exposed to it earlier.
It’s similar with racism albeit trivial compared. I can do me best to be as good as I can and influence people around me to help but it’s not my fault that others have had terrible times in the past under the control of people the same colour as me. I can understand the plight and I do as much as a person can that didn’t and will never go through it.

But that’s what is wrong, why can’t white people argue about it? How are they meant to do their bit if the right is taken away from them?

Although, I really should have watched more than that clip before getting involved haha

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Voodoo joked about the fact that 2 white people arguing about race is a non event. Pointless.
I just said that, people should be able to argue about it, it does not mean any of them are correct.
That Fox guy clearly is in a bubble and has a blinkered view on the subject.
I guess the woman should have argued why the reason he’s even on the panel because of his sheltered opinion instead of make the white male comment.