Shoes

Are you that fat one from The Airport

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The gum is a much better colour than in the pics

Might be a different gum though. I got told once that the same shoe made in different factories could be a different shape and different colour because of the way the gum reacts to different humidities, whether it’s in Vietnam or China or wherever else.

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Lads this is fascinating, why have we never discussed gum shades before? This is way better than bushing hardness (not really).

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I referred to a certain type of battery recently as needing a ‘hearing aid battery’ and someone was like eh what the fuck is that. I have no idea what it’s called I just know I used to get them for my nana and for like 25 years I’ve know that style as a ‘hearing aid battery’.

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Banging

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They do look better in single colours like that, rather than loads of different colour panels.

Rose Anvil.

While checking the boxing day shoe sales, i see they’re taking pre-orders for the re-introduces Etnies Sal 23

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I have some of the all black on order. Looking forward to it…

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I had some of the most recent éS reissues (had them in Australia, so it’s at least sometime in the last 18 years)… these definitely look way puffier and wider than those. Not really feeling them.

The last eS ones were 2020. Was it those? Instead of 23, it s ES on the heel.

The Sal 23 came out on etnies first, so this guy had the 2nd release which was a year later on eS.

Top tip: He also needs to drop the 2012 pants if he is going to wear anything other than a slim shoe.

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Feel like it was a lot earlier than that, as I actually skated them and inbetween a new baby and covid, I only skated twice in 2020.

So there’s been 6 iterations?

Etnies OG, 90s es, early 00s es, whatever I had in Australia (early to mid 10s at a guess), 2020 es and now these Etnies.

No, I think there have been way more as Barney recently showed me a pair which he found at his parents from about 2016 on etnies. It was a vulc version.

My understanding is that they’ve reissued this shoe every few years but it has never, ever been right. It was either slimmed down or on a different sole unit…or was on éS and not etnies with totally different branding and sole unit. It has been a weird journey and apparently Sal wasn’t stoked with any after the first couple of rounds he was involved with directly.
Sal is directly involved with this one and it is as close as you can get to the original release without reopening the 1994 factory. Dimensions, sole unit…even the stuck down insole…all the same.

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The pair I had might have been Etnies. Definitely weren’t Vulcan though

What is up with Soletech reissuing shoes but they aren’t the same as the original, surely that’s the whole point of a reissue

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One of the many other half-arsed versions they did, I’m sure.

From what I’ve seen; it was a constant shit-fight between etnies and eS as to who would, could and should reissue the shoe. No wonder it always ended up rushed and wrong…

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I think there are a few reasons…

  1. Opening a shoe mould for the sole costs $30,000. Unless the shoe is going to sell a large amount of product OR be in the line for a long time, then that cost is prohibitive.
    The original shoe moulds are long gone. I don’t think it is a case of bad archiving but that moulds deteriorate over time or as factories change, they get left behind.
  2. In the case of one shoe, it was meant to be rereleased under the original pros name.
    He was down for the cheque, but disappeared. It got pretty last minute and then the name/logo had to be changed. He’s never said no…He’s just…disappeared. Doesn’t respond to anyone from any brand (Not just these ones).
  3. In some cases, the pro who had the shoe is currently riding for someone else, but there is a demand for the shoe. Obviously the original name can’t be used. And that gets combined with the sole issue raised in point 1, also.
  4. The original shoes don’t exist in the archives. So, it’s a guesstimate.
  5. People who don’t know what they are doing have too much say.

The Sal 23 is proper.
The Creager is proper.
The Muska is proper.

Those are the newer reissues after a slow decade of learning that a half-arsed reissue isn’t a reissue.

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Which pro?

Probably MJ if I was guessing

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